Python, C++ or Ruby

smeezekitty · 11-18-2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostdog74

wth are you talking about not common in real world ? you are not making sense. this forum you come to is created using PHP, which is a scripting language. that backup script you have may be done in shell or Perl scripting language. There are many more examples of scripting language used in everyday scenarios. Get your facts right.

awk is not written in a script,
sed is not written in a script,
vi is not written in a script,
linux is not written in a script,
doom is not written in a script,
world of warcraft is not written in a script,
gcc is not written in a script,
virtualbox is not written in a script.
i am just saying that the OP could develop the main projects if he learned C.

Garry | K | E · 11-18-2009, 07:11 PM

I was only looking for a language I could learn and develop skills with it before moving on to something bigger and better :P

ghostdog74 · 11-18-2009, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty

awk is not written in a script,
sed is not written in a script,
vi is not written in a script,
linux is not written in a script,
doom is not written in a script,
world of warcraft is not written in a script,
gcc is not written in a script,
virtualbox is not written in a script.
i am just saying that the OP could develop the main projects if he learned C.

sigh, you are confusing yourself about scripting. you have a long way to go.

ghostdog74 · 11-18-2009, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Garry | K | E

I was only looking for a language I could learn and develop skills with it before moving on to something bigger and better :P

I thought you have chosen one to start with already? After that, you learn the more popular ones also, like Perl, PHP and Ruby. Forget about C/C++.

smeezekitty · 11-18-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostdog74

I thought you have chosen one to start with already? After that, you learn the more popular ones also, like Perl, PHP and Ruby. Forget about C/C++.

two languages you need to know to even consider yourself a real programmer is sh and C

ghostdog74 · 11-18-2009, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty

two languages you need to know to even consider yourself a real programmer is sh and C

state where you get that nonsense! References?

smeezekitty · 11-18-2009, 07:58 PM

http://www.cprogramming.com/whyc.html
and sh because you should know your shell

pixellany · 11-18-2009, 08:16 PM

From a quick scan, I conclude that the member who reported this thread as a "flame war" was in fact one of the main sources of fuel. That said, how about everyone stopping it? Sit back, have a beverage, and watch it die.

ghostdog74 · 11-18-2009, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty

http://www.cprogramming.com/whyc.html
and sh because you should know your shell

wrt C,
1) age of a language has nothing to do with whether you can be a "real" programmer or not.
2) to express common ideas, scripting languages can also do it, most of the time, more easily
3) you do not need to understand low level stuff(nearer to the machine) to do your daily tasks.

Garry | K | E · 11-18-2009, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostdog74

I thought you have chosen one to start with already? After that, you learn the more popular ones also, like Perl, PHP and Ruby. Forget about C/C++.

I did. I'm gonna go with Python for now and then go on to C/C++

Thanks for all your replies. Didn't quite expect this topic to go the way it did though. :P But yeah, it's helped a lot so thanks again.

wje_lq · 11-18-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pixellany

Sit back, have a beverage

Pass the popcorn, would you?

GrapefruiTgirl · 11-19-2009, 12:09 AM

But.. But!! I want to see this fully functional 4-lines-of-code webserver, sundialsvcs

seriously, I'd be most interested.

Sasha

Komakino · 11-19-2009, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by smeezekitty

two languages you need to know to even consider yourself a real programmer is sh and C

Funny, I'm employed as a programmer yet I'm pretty hopeless at C. I'm competant with C++ and very handy with Perl, not bad with Delphi and Java either and I've been known to pull in a little Lisp from time to time, but I guess that's not enough to make me a 'real' programmer.

*sigh* I think you should stop now because you're really showing your ignorance and making yourself look a fool.

Being a 'real' programmer is about knowing to choose the right tool for the job.

Komakino · 11-19-2009, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Garry | K | E

I did. I'm gonna go with Python for now and then go on to C/C++

Thanks for all your replies. Didn't quite expect this topic to go the way it did though. :P But yeah, it's helped a lot so thanks again.

I think that's a very sensible course of action. Good luck with it

ntubski · 11-19-2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ghostdog74

still you need to run it through a code formatter. Yes, bad indentation IS a big deal, if you are the one reading and maintaining code written by others

The point is that bad formatting can be solved quickly and automatically (in languages without semantic whitespace), whereas bad design is a much more difficult (and language independant) problem.