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After trying to get QT/Kdevelop to work, I finally gave up on it at present due to several problems when compiling programs (missing development libraries and so on). I know I can install the QT development libraries, but I thought I might try something different.
So I have installed Anjuta and I created a small GTK+ application and I find the C interface quite nice though a touch inconvenient.
I also like Glade much better than QT Designer/Kommander Editor. It's code generator is fantastic!
Now the question is, is there a better way to write GTK+ programs? Not that I don't like GTK+. Far from it. It is a fantastic API and I wish I had tried GTK+ before QT.
I know that GTKmm is a C++ wrapper for GTK+, but the problem is that I am not sure if writing GTKmm program will create additional dependencies as I needed to install more libraries (glibmm, glademm and gtkmm and so on).
Anybody can confirm this? Is it possible to actually write GTK+ programs which statically bind the C++ libraries so that the dependencies are limited to the standard GTK+ C libraries?
Last edited by vharishankar; 04-10-2005 at 07:58 AM.
i am not much of a programmer, but if you were to write c++ programs using gtkmm, then I am sure it would be a dependency on most systems. gtkmm itself would probably need a few extra support packages to be installed alongside it as well.
If you like C++ -- real modern, correct, idiomatic C++ -- you'll probably like gtkmm.
I tried using gtkmm a year or two ago. At the time, it was difficult for me to get all the dependencies installed correctly (this was on redhat 9). I'm guessing that it's trivial to install on an apt-based system.
With regard to the last item, note that code generation has been deprecated for a long time: the preferred solution is using libglade. If you want to use code generation at any cost, the way to go is using an external tool to process the .glade file and output code in your language of choice. The format of the .glade file is the same as Glade-2.
Originally posted by Harishankar Using libglade is another dependency. Why on earth should I want another dependency?
# UI changes can be seen more quickly, so UIs are able to improve.
# Designers without programming skills can create and edit UIs.
# We don't have great gui builder integrated with IDE for GTK+ like Netbeans for Java or Delphi
Last edited by melinda_sayang; 04-11-2005 at 10:45 AM.
Well there's nothing really much to be gained by separating the UI from the codebase. Especially when Glade integrates so well with an IDE like Anjuta. And I always like to be as less dependent on external libraries as possible.
So I really see no benefits even though the developers might tout it as a great improvement.
So, how easy/difficult is using libglade? I mean can you still reference the GTK widgets from the code easily using "lookup_widget"?
But I must say, since you told me to use libglade, I tried to install the libglade-dev package and its dependencies are so deep that it requires (almost) a whole Gnome install (I tried in apt in debian)!
That defeats the very purpose of my program. I want a simple GTK program which has very few dependencies apart from the GTK libraries.
Give me a good reason to use libglade. I don't see any reason to use it, unless Debian is quite wrong in asking for so many dependencies.
Last edited by vharishankar; 04-12-2005 at 08:22 AM.
I recommend against gtkmm. Gtk2 is already a very object oriented structure, and it's wonderful to code in. You can just use it in your c++ program; obviously the wierdest things are like converting between string and gchar.. But I would definitely recommend not using gtkmm.
There I think are things to make your app easily portable to things like windows, but I don't know if that's something you want.
Remember, c++ can always compile against c libraries.