that's what i think, anyways...

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=267040

^^ i come across a fair few of these threads, where people get smilies they didn't intend.

i think the best solution is to disable smilies by default, because these are rather technical forums, and personally i find it easier to convert ;) into a smily, than convert the smily into the text.

but perhaps another fix is to only let the site parse text into smilies if the whole word is a match, not just a word-part.

but personally, i would let smilies be posted along with the VB code... something like: [smily];)[/smily]



...searching to make sure i didn't double-post yeilded: another frustrated user... granted, he didn't know how to manipulate the site's features, but i still think the default should be 'off'

weird, I thought CODE tags disabled smilies but it seems they don't./

yeah, and on that i agree with fd0u1440 that code blocks should disable smilies or be left as-is, but not quote blocks... you know, since this thread is selfishly all about what needlessly concerns me...

The idea of only having smilies if they are seperate words completely would be nice, but I don't know if the logisitics of that is that easy. For example:
A sentence that has a (perenthesis and is followed by a code with something within the the actual should show up as something: p without having to place the space between : and p) the perenthesis was going to show where I actually have a and sometimes don't want the smiley, but there you go.



^ that one was meant < and so was that < and that...

Cool

I think that one should be able to disable ALL smileys in the User CP, because I really do not like them, I find them annoying and "in the way" when I try to read a post. I can't see why I should not be able to disable smileys when I browse the forums.

Regards.

I disagree with disabling smilies by default. If you don't want smilies in your posts there is an option to disable smilies for each post in the options section under the box we type in to reply to other posts if you click the post reply button.

1. you don't want to disable the smilies in someone elses posts because the poster had a reason for including them. The smilies provide emotional references where faces are not visible. A poster may feel this is important - like when a comment could be taken several ways.

2. when posting, you want to use smilies only when they are intended. The trouble lies with the "colon-bracket" form rather than with the smilies themselves. Perhaps it would be possible to only allow explicit smiles ... so :smile: would be a smily (or maybe : ) : - without the spaces.) but wouldn't (oh uckfay!)

3. You can't disable smilies in the quick reply ...
Perhaps smilies could be escaped when they are not intended or - is there a vb code like LaTeX \verb?

I disagree. Even if I disable smileys in all the posts I read I still get the text that they wrote instead of the smiley, so I would se :) and then I understand that this would be a smiley. even :study: would work, cause I see the text "study" in colons and I understand what the poster ment when s/he wrote that. The only thing is that I don't have to see all those graphic smileys. It is like when reading a book instead of a film, you can still imagine the graphics. ;)

Or like browsing the site i lynx, no smileys there either. I still thinks that one should be able to disable smileys.

Actually, disabling all smilies, like you can disable all signitures, could be a nice option. Wonder how you'd code it?

Well I think that disabling smileys would be better then disabling signatures (even if you can already do this). Because there may be some good information in ones signature (their distro, kernel, hardware, etc) but I do not see any *important* information in a smiley that could not be understood if the smiley would be in plain text instead.

So ... lets see if I can summarise:

While we wouldn't want to disable all smilies by default, it would contribute to the useability of the site if we could disable all smilies in the control panel?

Is this a consensus?

What would be involved in coding this so the cute little picture dosn't have to replace the text?

Yes, this is at least how I want it.

I do not know about the coding, though. That depends on if the smileys still are in plain text in the database and then removed upon view of the client, then it could not be too hard to put a little if-statement that prevents the code from replacing all smileys when the user shows a post. But maybe this is not the case? I do not know when the smileys are replaced so I guess it is up to jeremy (or whoever else has access to coding the site) to decide if it is even necessary or possible to do.

i like the simlies keep them there

I think there should be an "enable smilies" option instead of "disable smilies" as the problem is people don't know about the disable option. And if you want to enable it you should be able to make that setting the default for yourself.