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Browsing around and was checking out Unix.com. Noticed their rules, some are just like ours, some aren't and more strict than ours. So for anyone who thinks the rules here are bad, check out Unix.com's. Maybe LQ should adopt some of these..
Rules from Unix.com Forums
(1) No flames, shouting (all caps), sarcasm, bullying or arrogant posts.
(2) No negative comments about others or unpolite remarks. Be patient.
(3) Refrain from idle chatter that does not contribute to the knowledge base.
(4) Do not 'bump up' questions if they are not answered promptly.
(5) Search the forums database with your keywords before asking.
(6) Do not post classroom or homework problems.
(7) No job postings from headhunters or recruiters in technical forums.
(8) No BSD vs. Linux vs. Windows or similar threads.
(9) Edit your posts if you see spelling or grammar errors (don't write in cyberchat or cyberpunk style). English only.
(10) Don't post your email address and ask for an email reply. The forums are for the benefit of all, so all Q&A should take place in the forums.
(11) No forum registrations from hotmail.com or yahoo.com email accounts.
(12) The forum administrators reserve the right to prune, move or edit posts that do not adhear to the rules or are technically inaccurate.
(13) The forum administrators reserve the right remove users or change their posting status to read only without notice if any rules are not followed.
(14) No smoking in the forums.
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(C) Remember, this is a non-commerical forum dedicated to the open and universal exchange of information. Please help keep the quality of the posts very high for the entire world community.
(D) These are not hacker boards so hacker related posts will be promptly deleted or moderated.
I particularly like #9. I understand that some of those posters from non-English-speaking countries (native language, that is) may find it hard to get their English spot-on, but those from native English countries should know better and at least try to write properly. #10 is also a pet hate.
Well Thymox, I completely disagree with your reasoning and find it unintelligible. Rule #9 is Racist and suppressive. Who the heck are you to enforce people to speak one language only, specially if they are from other countries. You should be happy that at least people go through the trouble of learning english for that matter. Or else you would be needing to answer questions in a language other than English. And for native english speakers, if they are too lazy to write properly that is their problem, and their problem alone. If they don't write correctly, then their quesitons most likely won't be answered correctly.
Originally posted by zLinuxz Well Thymox, I completely disagree with your reasoning and find it unintelligible. Rule #9 is Racist and suppressive. Who the heck are you to enforce people to speak one language only, specially if they are from other countries. You should be happy that at least people go through the trouble of learning english for that matter. Or else you would be needing to answer questions in a language other than English.
I think you misunderstood him, he only said he liked #9 which is his opinion. He didn't say anything negative or racist in anyway. He simply stated that they have trouble getting their spot-on. That to me is no way racist or supressive.
Like I said in my first post, aren't you glad were not that strict here. Even though I am kind of for that, I don't come here to try to read any other language but English, cause this is a English site, written in English. I never find myself going to a German, French or Spanish site and try to post a question in English, when everything else is not written in English. If I ever lived in a country that didn't speak English, I would make it my goal to speak their native tongue, cause I find it rude that others come even to the United States for example, live here their whole life and never learn our national language, but expect us to enderstand them or work around that they don't understand us. That's upsurd to me. So to me, it applies to websites as well.
Just my opinion, I'm not trying to start a war, I just don't agree with you zLinuxz about your statement about what Thymox said. I don't find it offensive or racist in anyway.
Originally posted by zLinuxz Well Thymox, I completely disagree with your reasoning and find it unintelligible. Rule #9 is Racist and suppressive. Who the heck are you to enforce people to speak one language only, specially if they are from other countries. You should be happy that at least people go through the trouble of learning english for that matter. Or else you would be needing to answer questions in a language other than English. And for native english speakers, if they are too lazy to write properly that is their problem, and their problem alone. If they don't write correctly, then their quesitons most likely won't be answered correctly.
No tengo ninguna una problema con las personas qui quere preguntarnos en otra idiomas, pero tiene que saber que la idioma primera de esto sitio es ingles. Si las personas qui hablan ingles por sus idioma primera no escriban bien, !hay una problema! No tengo problemas con los estranjeros (relativo que yo), y espero que ninguna persona qui esribra en esto sitio tiene las mismas problemas.
And for the benefit of anyone that doesn't read (broken) Spanish:
I don't haven any problems with people who ask questions in other languages, but they need to know that the 1st language of this site is English. If those that speak English as their 1st language don't write well, there is a problem! I don't have a problem with foreigners, and I hope that no-one else that writes on this site does so either.
Oh, and anyone that speaks/reads Spanish better than myself, please feel free to correct my mistakes... I've not studies the language for 4+ years, and I wasn't that good then, either!
And as for your personal comments: Who the heck am I to enforce people to speak 1 language? I don't force them! I am quite happy to (attempt) to converse with anyone in a language that I can speak! I should be happy that at least people go through the trouble of leaning English for that matter. I am. I, personally, think that the languages education in England is appaling! Most European countries (I can't speak for any others) enforce English in their curriculum from the age of around 4! I am all for this, and I wish that this country would do the same, perhaps it might get rid (eventually) of the 'English problem' (i.e. the English louts that go on holiday abroad and don't even consider being curteous to the locals).
As Tricky said, I believe that you misunderstood my statement. Oh, and for your information, I am also a firm believer in correct spelling (although I too must admit that I don't always spell things correctly), and of good grammar, and the word you were looking for was especially, not specially.
I sometimes use hotmail for non-personal stuff, so I'm not best keen on rule 11. Apart from that, I don't have any particular problems with these rules. I think it's best to use English on these forums. (please enable JIS-Shift encoding to view)
Trickykid, It was not that I misunderstood him, it was just that I would have wanted him to explain himself a little better like he did afterwards. I am not trying to start a war either, nor did I try to be rude to him, and if it did indeed seem so, then I'll apologyze. It was more the way that rule #9 was written which sort of bugged me, not what Thymox said.
And yes I do know what the words 'racist' and 'suppressive' mean MartBrooks. If you come to me to ask me a question, but you cannot speak english so you try to ask me in another language, and as soon as you start speaking I tell you ENGLISH ONLY!, even though I may be also able to speak the language in which you are speaking, THAT IS RACIST, and it will always be. In other words, I'm telling you to go back from where ever you came from, go and learn English and not until then will your opinion will it even be taken into consideration, which is SUPPRESSIVE. So, now clarifying that it is perhaps you who doesn't really understand the extent of the meaning of these too words, I'm moving on.
Thymox, I'm sorry, it was not my intention to put you in any kind of spot, and I understand now your point of view on this matter.
Here is what you typed:
"No tengo ninguna una problema con las personas qui quere preguntarnos en otra idiomas, pero tiene que saber que la idioma primera de esto sitio es ingles. Si las personas qui hablan ingles por sus idioma primera no escriban bien, !hay una problema! No tengo problemas con los estranjeros (relativo que yo), y espero que ninguna persona qui esribra en esto sitio tiene las mismas problemas."
Corrections:
"No tengo ningun problema con las personas que quieren preguntarnos en otros idiomas, pero tienen que saber que el primer idioma de este sitio de internet es Ingles. Si las personas que hablan Ingles como su primera lengua, entonces hay problema! No tengo problemas con los extranjeros (cuando menos yo), y espero que ninguna persona que escriba en este sitio tenga el mismo problema."
It is just that, that rule #9 bugs me greatly when it says so deterministically, English Only.
If a person feels more comfortable speaking it's native language while getting help, and I can speak their native language well enough, I will help them in their language. And if I don't speak that language, I'll say I'm very sorry, but I cannot help them because of the obvious reason I cannot understand what they are writting, perhaps some body else will be able to help them. Diversity is something beautiful, imagine that Linuxquestions doesn't only offer support in English but also in some other languages. How much more people would come here and join the community!!, those last two words in that rule are very thoughtless, they are just full of comfortness for those who wrote it.
I don't think I have really contributed to a war yet on here, and I hope this doesn't start my first thread on one...
I believe that English is about as close as the world has come so far to a universal language. In an ideal world, it would not be one countries native language seeping into all other cultures world wide, but this is not an ideal world.
It is not that I would refuse to help someone because they cannot speak/understand English, but I could not be able to help them because I cannot speak/understand any of the 100's of other languages in this world, nor most out of this world either , so because I am too lazy/busy/dumb to learn other languages (other than very very very basic spanish) I cannot help those who speak only their native language.
The other part of #9 that I would seem to agree with, and hopefully won't hurt anyone's feelings, is the "(don't write in cyberchat or cyberpunk style)" because sometimes I have a rought time deciphering the question. I would say that certain things are acceptable (like "R"=are "Y"=why and "U"=you etc.) but then I would think that the interpretation of "common sense" might get out of hand, and we would be back to "cyberchat, cyberpunk" style wording. So a blanket statement of "no cyberchat..." would be more suitable.
Obviously alot of the Rules that have been established for this site (LQ) are lenient. The mods here do a great job at not letting things get out of hand, but at the same time letting people express most of what they want.
So in the end, I guess not adding/editing/deleting any rules to this site would not be needed as long as the current rules/mods stay.
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