Misunderstanding and misconception and an attempt to clarify
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There was a misunderstanding that I have to clear up.
In one post, member cynwulf wrote that he would like to hear from JSB's "anonymous fans" why they upvoted him, and in the following post TB0ne found out that these upvotes came very quickly one after the other.
Those were posts 9 and 10 in the above topic.
I think I am responsible for a large part of these upvotes and would like to explain why here.
Unfortunately, I now have to take a step back - my original MiriamBeyond account has been blocked and I had set up a new one to answer here.
I don't know why it was blocked, there was no justification. I sent a message and still haven't received an explanation, but I have to assume that it has something to do with the above topic.
Originally I had registered as a normal Linux user, but soon became aware of a topic in which another member (not JSB) was horribly abused, people ganged up on hik for being a troll when all he/she did was to ask a much-asked question. I found that very shocking and commented on it there.
After that I noticed the introduction of jsbjsb002 (now JSB). https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ld-4175687299/
This person was systematically gutted from the start by jsbjsb001 and a few others. Mercilessly suspected and condemned from the start, before he/she could even justify him/herself. Everything problematic that JSB wrote afterwards must be viewed from this point of view.
Somehow I felt sorry for that, because I think that nobody deserves to be treated with so much suspicion. So I started to upvote his/her posts out of solidarity with the persecuted, not realizing I might be doing him/her a disservice. Nevertheless, sometimes this member wrote things that were factually correct and helpful and deserved an upvote.
I'm sure that most other suspicions could have a similarly innocuous explanation if you just allow yourself to let go of your own paranoia for a moment. For example, I can think of some harmless explanations why someone who doesn't speak English well suddenly posts one sentence in perfect English.
I see that the contributions of this member are often not very good, but I have to say it again, the way people are judged on suspicion only here is scary. And too many follow without checking or thinking for themselves.
You will probably also judge me that way now, but I don't care.
All this turned my stomach so much that I didn't feel like taking part in Linux discussions anymore, but I thank those who have helped me and the silent majority that does not take part in witch-hunts!
There was a misunderstanding that I have to clear up.
In one post, member cynwulf wrote that he would like to hear from JSB's "anonymous fans" why they upvoted him, and in the following post TB0ne found out that these upvotes came very quickly one after the other.
Those were posts 9 and 10 in the above topic.
I think I am responsible for a large part of these upvotes and would like to explain why here.
Unfortunately, I now have to take a step back - my original MiriamBeyond account has been blocked and I had set up a new one to answer here.
I don't know why it was blocked, there was no justification. I sent a message and still haven't received an explanation, but I have to assume that it has something to do with the above topic.
Originally I had registered as a normal Linux user, but soon became aware of a topic in which another member (not JSB) was horribly abused, people ganged up on hik for being a troll when all he/she did was to ask a much-asked question. I found that very shocking and commented on it there.
After that I noticed the introduction of jsbjsb002 (now JSB). https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ld-4175687299/
This person was systematically gutted from the start by jsbjsb001 and a few others. Mercilessly suspected and condemned from the start, before he/she could even justify him/herself. Everything problematic that JSB wrote afterwards must be viewed from this point of view.
Somehow I felt sorry for that, because I think that nobody deserves to be treated with so much suspicion. So I started to upvote his/her posts out of solidarity with the persecuted, not realizing I might be doing him/her a disservice. Nevertheless, sometimes this member wrote things that were factually correct and helpful and deserved an upvote.
I'm sure that most other suspicions could have a similarly innocuous explanation if you just allow yourself to let go of your own paranoia for a moment. For example, I can think of some harmless explanations why someone who doesn't speak English well suddenly posts one sentence in perfect English.
I see that the contributions of this member are often not very good, but I have to say it again, the way people are judged on suspicion only here is scary. And too many follow without checking or thinking for themselves.
You will probably also judge me that way now, but I don't care.
All this turned my stomach so much that I didn't feel like taking part in Linux discussions anymore, but I thank those who have helped me and the silent majority that does not take part in witch-hunts!
When you've participated on forums for long enough, you tend to notice the red flags (and there are plenty of them associated with the "JSB" account) associated with trolls and spammers. I can only put it down to your lack of experience given you clearly don't understand that. I'm not going to apologize for pointing out a troll or a spammer. You are also very, very wrong in claiming that others here are "just going to believe anything I tell them and follow like sheep" as it were. This is just so wrong it's not even funny. Stalking and cyberstalking are actual crimes in most developed countries, not just against whatever rules an online forum has. Therefore anyone who is a victim of it can report it to the police or other relevant government body, and those committing it can be criminally charged for it - including where I live.
BTW, if you don't want to participate here anymore, why setup a new account and start a thread?
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Last edited by jsbjsb001; 02-06-2021 at 09:04 AM.
Reason: typo
There was a misunderstanding that I have to clear up.
In one post, member cynwulf wrote that he would like to hear from JSB's "anonymous fans" why they upvoted him, and in the following post TB0ne found out that these upvotes came very quickly one after the other. Those were posts 9 and 10 in the above topic. I think I am responsible for a large part of these upvotes and would like to explain why here.
Unfortunately, I now have to take a step back - my original MiriamBeyond account has been blocked and I had set up a new one to answer here. I don't know why it was blocked, there was no justification. I sent a message and still haven't received an explanation, but I have to assume that it has something to do with the above topic.
Originally I had registered as a normal Linux user, but soon became aware of a topic in which another member (not JSB) was horribly abused, people ganged up on hik for being a troll when all he/she did was to ask a much-asked question. I found that very shocking and commented on it there. After that I noticed the introduction of jsbjsb002 (now JSB). https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ld-4175687299/
This person was systematically gutted from the start by jsbjsb001 and a few others. Mercilessly suspected and condemned from the start, before he/she could even justify him/herself. Everything problematic that JSB wrote afterwards must be viewed from this point of view.
Somehow I felt sorry for that, because I think that nobody deserves to be treated with so much suspicion. So I started to upvote his/her posts out of solidarity with the persecuted, not realizing I might be doing him/her a disservice. Nevertheless, sometimes this member wrote things that were factually correct and helpful and deserved an upvote.
I'm sure that most other suspicions could have a similarly innocuous explanation if you just allow yourself to let go of your own paranoia for a moment. For example, I can think of some harmless explanations why someone who doesn't speak English well suddenly posts one sentence in perfect English.
I see that the contributions of this member are often not very good, but I have to say it again, the way people are judged on suspicion only here is scary. And too many follow without checking or thinking for themselves.
You will probably also judge me that way now, but I don't care.
All this turned my stomach so much that I didn't feel like taking part in Linux discussions anymore, but I thank those who have helped me and the silent majority that does not take part in witch-hunts!
While I'm not a moderator, your other account was most probably locked because of a few very obvious reasons:
You joined (coincidentally, I'm SURE...) just after JSB/jsbjsb002 joined.
Your account did nothing but post in threads where JSB posted
Your account did nothing but give reputation to JSB
...and that you're a new user at the same time. And *AMAZINGLY* enough, the reputation tab on both of those profiles has been removed. Almost as if there was something to hide. Perhaps the fact that the only user giving reputation to your posts was JSB also?? No proof, of course, but the moderators and Jeremy can certainly see it.
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Originally Posted by hazel
Here we go again! Is this saga never going to end?
Doesn't look like it. If Jeremy had just deleted their account at the beginning when the "JSB" account (and any following sockpuppet accounts) was originally created, it all could have been avoided. Like I said to Jeremy directly, and I'll say it here: as much as I think Jeremy does a pretty reasonable job overall in being root here; I personally think he has failed to deal with this issue properly in the first place - it was badder enough I get banned (even if only for less than a day) for simply pointing out a fact - let alone allowing a troll to continue posting and clearly creating puppet accounts. It's insult to injury as far as I'm concerned, but it's Jeremy's BBQ...
I used to go on sailing holidays on the Norfolk Broads and one of the first things we learned was, "Your skipper has the last word even when he's wrong." Because you can't have endless arguments, especially on boats where that can be dangerous. Jeremy is the BDFL of this forum and his word goes. Let's all give it a rest, shall we?
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