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Old 06-29-2021, 04:37 AM   #1
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Tahoe-LAFS vs Cubbit cloud storages?


Hello,
I'm interested in safe cloud storage in the sense that for me, this should add redundancy, maintain encryption control and be as robust as possible to 'main server shutdown'.
Additionally, being a rather average user, I know I just won't be able to deploy too ambitious systems by myself :-(


All in all this resulted in mere inaction for years, just contemplating Tahoe-LAFS but being aware of its difficulty for me, and also I would't know how to start or join an existing 'share team'.


Now I just discovered Cubbit, a recent and very successful crowdfunding that at first sight looked a dream come true for me : I buy the device, all the rest is taken care (they even have a dedicated Debian application).


I'm definitely impressed by Cubbit, but also aware that apparently everything is closed source (and they have a single connection server to join the network).


I would like to know if people have different opinions on these two solutions, and also if I am missing other alternatives...
All your comments will be extremely welcome!


TIA,
Hervé

P. S. some more info in MaketechEasier

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Old 06-29-2021, 05:23 AM   #2
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I understand you're looking for specific recommendations, but it always comes down to this:
You want to store data on somebody else's computer. Do you trust that specific somebody else?
Maybe better to encrypt the data before you even send it out to reach that other server.
So, maybe phrase a web search like "linux encrypt cloud backup" or "linux encrypted remote storage" etc.
 
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Old 06-29-2021, 10:49 AM   #3
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So, maybe phrase a web search like "linux encrypt cloud backup" or "linux encrypted remote storage" etc.
Thank you ondoho!

Indeed the search is difficult, because I don't just want remote storage.
Actually I prefer, and I have, local NASes, even testing the latest Nextbox that offers a local, fully-owned Nextcloud storage that's properly accessible from outside with an even easier setup process than the normal Nextcloud over a remote server.


My concern revolves around increased security through spreading data over many servers.
If I just start a search with 'encrypted cloud backup' I get lots of things but most of them concern how to encrypt files for a single remote server, which is not what I want alas :-(


Tahoe-LAFS proposes this spreading brillantly : open-source, serously encrypted end2end, spread over so many servers that multiple crashes won't be an issue... the only concern being that it sounds like a product for geeks. At least, that's their user's manual tells me :-)


Cubbit tells the opposite story : plug and forget (at least in theory) but you ignore almost everything about encryption, etc.

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Old 06-30-2021, 01:42 AM   #4
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My concern revolves around increased security through spreading data over many servers.
If I just start a search with 'encrypted cloud backup' I get lots of things but most of them concern how to encrypt files for a single remote server, which is not what I want alas :-(
I see.
But I don't see how you can easily achieve that without laying all your egg's into one company's basket. Hence your question of finding the right, trustworthy product, I guess.

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hmmm... I can imagine using the bittorrent protocol for this sort of decentralised backup, but I can't imagine how to make it reliable. The reliability would require something centralised, again, I think.
 
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