Need to move away from OneDrive

joden1 · 07-13-2021, 06:56 PM

I looked at iDrive but it's not really integrated with Linux too well...I also looked at a few others, but it gets so confusing haha!

I want to ditch Onedrive (reasons I won't post here) so I need a replacement.

Mainly for cloud data backup and storage, not necessarily for "creating backups" if you get me. Mostly for somewhere I can access critical data files from either anywhere, or if I need to re-load an OS, I cna simply download data back to the data partition. Apparently Dropbox has dropped compatibility (Linux wise) for anything other than non-encrypted EXT4 drives.

Sharing is ok but not necessary, I'll use a free Dropbox account for that. Need at least 1TB of space, subscription ok...

So any suggestions/recommendations from personal experience welcome!

wpeckham · 07-13-2021, 07:37 PM

Look into "rclone". I use it to connect my linux laptop to PCLOUD, GDRIVE, MEGA, and DROPBOX.
Google expires the keys very often, so I recommend not using google. I have legacy data from old jobs there, so I need to keep it.

joden1 · 07-13-2021, 10:40 PM

Thanks - I'll check it out!

joden1 · 07-13-2021, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wpeckham

Look into "rclone". I use it to connect my linux laptop to PCLOUD, GDRIVE, MEGA, and DROPBOX.....

I was looking at pCloud - of it and the others, which would you recommend to replace MS onedrive?

That rclone looks pretty amazing btw, easy enough to use?

TenTenths · 07-14-2021, 06:03 AM

I'm currently using OpenDrive, not had any issues.

I'm using them with their Windows app (Win10 lappy), and also with rclone (RasPi). I also tried their webdav offering with davfs2 on the RasPi and confirm it does act as a normal mounted drive.

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Originally Posted by joden1

That rclone looks pretty amazing btw, easy enough to use?

It's pretty easy to use and supports a load of providers. I just set it up following OpenDrive's instructions as it's natively supported, and not had any issues. Currently using rclone to upload around 4.5Tb of photos.

joden1 · 07-14-2021, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TenTenths

I'm currently using OpenDrive, not had any issues.

I'm using them with their Windows app (Win10 lappy), and also with rclone (RasPi). I also tried their webdav offering with davfs2 on the RasPi and confirm it does act as a normal mounted drive.

It's pretty easy to use and supports a load of providers. I just set it up following OpenDrive's instructions as it's natively supported, and not had any issues. Currently using rclone to upload around 4.5Tb of photos.

Nice! thanks for that I'll check out Opendrive. If I am reading the rclone site info correctly the online storage does not necessarily need to "integrate" with the linux OS, yes?
One thing I couldn't find (although it's probably there) was if you can run auto incremental uploads - eg, you work on a music project save it to file and the rclone will automatically see that and run the necessary to get that altered file saved to the cloud as well. No big deal if it doesn't though

TenTenths · 07-14-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by joden1

If I am reading the rclone site info correctly the online storage does not necessarily need to "integrate" with the linux OS, yes?

Not sure what you mean by integrate. rclone makes use of the various cloud provider APIs, so with OpenDrive rclone does all its work over https

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Originally Posted by joden1

One thing I couldn't find (although it's probably there) was if you can run auto incremental uploads - eg, you work on a music project save it to file and the rclone will automatically see that and run the necessary to get that altered file saved to the cloud as well. No big deal if it doesn't though

I've not seen anything in rclone that will automatically monitor a folder, you could either script something with inotify / incrond and call rclone, or run an rclone sync on a regular cron job (that's my plan when my initial source files are uploaded.

joden1 · 07-14-2021, 01:53 PM

ok, thanks

smallpond · 07-14-2021, 02:46 PM

I've been thinking of using my Facebook account as free steganographic cloud storage. Each word of text holds about 2 bytes of data. They want to keep all your information, so let them!

wpeckham · 07-14-2021, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TenTenths

Not sure what you mean by integrate. rclone makes use of the various cloud provider APIs, so with OpenDrive rclone does all its work over https

I've not seen anything in rclone that will automatically monitor a folder, you could either script something with inotify / incrond and call rclone, or run an rclone sync on a regular cron job (that's my plan when my initial source files are uploaded.

There are multiple ways to use rclone. The way I use it (controlled from a script I wrote) I mount the cloud storage so that it appears a local folder.
Everything I do that uses the cloud storage uses that storage in real time. There is no update, no need to "monitor", it is already there.
Then, at the end of my session, I use the script to unmount the cloud storage.

joden1 · 07-14-2021, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wpeckham

There are multiple ways to use rclone. The way I use it (controlled from a script I wrote) I mount the cloud storage so that it appears a local folder.
Everything I do that uses the cloud storage uses that storage in real time. There is no update, no need to "monitor", it is already there.
Then, at the end of my session, I use the script to unmount the cloud storage.

Oooooh, that sounds interesting...do you have all your current projects in that dedicated folder (data drive??), and it syncs to that, or is it the cloud version you are always working on?

Once I get up and running, would you possibly share that script, and other tips on getting it working like that? Sounds like it is the way I want to do things...

Thanks

wpeckham · 07-15-2021, 08:07 AM

It depends upon your having followed the instructions to get the codes set up, and first create the mount points. in this case

Code:

$ ls -l cloud
total 16
drwxrwxrwx 2 user users 4096 Mar 13 15:05 dropbox
drwxr-xr-x 2 user users 4096 Mar 13 16:20 gdrive
drwxr-xr-x 2 user users 4096 Mar 13 17:10 mega
drwxrwxrwx 2 user users 4096 Mar 13 17:23 pcloud

Then the script looks like this

Code:

#! /bin/bash
FLAG=$1 

case $FLAG  in 
  m )
	/usr/bin/rclone mount  dropbox:/ /data/cloud/dropbox --daemon ;
	/usr/bin/rclone mount  gdrive:/  /data/cloud/gdrive --daemon ;
	/usr/bin/rclone mount  mega:/    /data/cloud/mega   --daemon ;
	/usr/bin/rclone mount  pcloud:/  /data/cloud/pcloud --daemon ;
   ;; 
  u ) 
	/usr/bin/fusermount -u /data/cloud/dropbox ;
	/usr/bin/fusermount -u /data/cloud/gdrive ;
	/usr/bin/fusermount -u /data/cloud/mega ; 
	/usr/bin/fusermount -u  /data/cloud/pcloud ; 
   ;;
  * ) 
	echo "Options must be m or u ( Mount or UnMount ) only. " ; 
   ;;  
esac

Not exactly complex or exciting.

joden1 · 07-15-2021, 11:47 AM

hahaha, yep, complex for this newer linux user

joden1 · 07-15-2021, 01:16 PM

I think I may have found one Icedrive https://icedrive.net/ has a Linux client and is pretty reasonable on cost too...Might try that first and then look at rclone down the track.

EDIT: haha, changed tack totally and decided I do not really need those sorts of services. I really just need online storage of project data etc...SO I wnet with Mega (NZ based and outside the US).

I'll see how that goes.

Thanks everyone for your great suggestions and ideas!