[SOLVED] Unable to install other Linux distro next to Linux Mint?
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Unable to install other Linux distro next to Linux Mint?
I try to install other Linux distro next to Lunix Mint, Neon or Kumander or others.
Gparted : /dev/nvme0np1 EFI system partition Fat 32 --- 512 MiB -- Boot, esp
................../ " " " ¨ ¨¨... p2 ............................ ....... ext4 --- 476 GiB ,
I try, and Neon or Kumander says: media I try to install is not correct? I install Linux Mint on the whole disk. Wil I have to partition it by myself? I thought the linux can do this by their selfs.
You should be able to use a manual option with Neon to shrink the partition on the drive where you have Mint and create unallocated space on which to install it. Both Neon and Mint are Ubuntu derivatives so on an EFI install, Neon will probably overwrite the EFI files for Mint. You can use gparted to shrink the Mint partition. The link below is to the gparted manual which explains shrinking and resizing partitions. You can't do it from the installed Mint but need an iso or another Linux which has it on the USB.
If you see a message like that you probably did not verify the download of the iso or it was not written properly to the usb. Did you verify the download? What did you use to write Neon to the usb?
You should be able to use a manual option with Neon to shrink the partition on the drive where you have Mint and create unallocated space on which to install it. Both Neon and Mint are Ubuntu derivatives so on an EFI install, Neon will probably overwrite the EFI files for Mint. You can use gparted to shrink the Mint partition. The link below is to the gparted manual which explains shrinking and resizing partitions. You can't do it from the installed Mint but need an iso or another Linux which has it on the USB.
If you see a message like that you probably did not verify the download of the iso or it was not written properly to the usb. Did you verify the download? What did you use to write Neon to the usb?
I did use Rufus,(in Windows 11)
I did not verify the download. Normally the download do that, yes? I will do that manually.
Both Neon and Mint are Ubuntu derivatives so on an EFI install, Neon will probably overwrite the EFI files for Mint. You can use gparted to shrink the Mint partition.
This need not happen. You as admin can be proactive and avoid it. Simply stop Mint from calling itself ubuntu on the ESP partition, in your BBS menu, and in UEFI BIOS setup. To do this, use your plain text editor with root permission to assign a text string other than "ubuntu" in place of what you find for GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= in /etc/default/grub. Once done, the next update of Grub will change the directory ubuntu in /boot/efi/EFI/ to whatever string you assign in /etc/default/grub. "mint" should be good enough, but "mint21" or "mint213" or "mymint" would be just as effective.
Both Neon and Mint are Ubuntu derivatives so on an EFI install, Neon will probably overwrite the EFI files for Mint. You can use gparted to shrink the Mint partition.
This need not happen. You as admin can be proactive and avoid it. Simply stop Mint from calling itself ubuntu on the ESP partition, in your BBS menu, and in UEFI BIOS setup. To do this, use your plain text editor with root permission to assign a text string other than "ubuntu" in place of what you find for GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR= in /etc/default/grub. Once done, the next update of Grub will change the directory ubuntu in /boot/efi/EFI/ to whatever string you assign in /etc/default/grub. "mint" should be good enough, but "mint21" or "mint213" or "mymint" would be just as effective.
I did make the partition, LinuxMint was on it, smaller. I did this with Rescatux no problem. I get dev/nvme0n1p3 ..Root.. ext4.. 204 GiB. I did not ask for format in ext4, mayby it must be unallocated? .I try to install Neon Linux with a USB stick! He start install untill he stops with errorcode 1 something about
cp : cannot stat cdrom/Casper/vmlinux: No such file or directory.
NVME support can be buggy. Mint and Neon are both Ubuntu derivatives. Ubuntu is a Debian derivative, as is Kumander. Try installing a distro or two or three that is not based on Ubuntu or Debian, e.g. PCLinuxOS, Mageia, openSUSE, Rocky or Fedora. Probably the newest of these would be least likely a problem with NVME, likely openSUSE Tumbleweed, which as a rolling release is "new" up to 8 times per week (no lie - once in a week I noticed there were two releases on the same calendar day, and one on each of the other days). Or go with any of the others' devel version, such as Cauldron, Rawhide or openSUSE Leap 15.6.
Try installing on SATA instead if you can, to confirm whether it's an NVME issue.
All distros I've used can do partitioning and repartitioning from within their installers, so partitioning in any of them should be no problem. OTOH, I always do all my partitioning prior to installation, with DFSee, which is not part of any Linux distro, but runs using the same basic UI in DOS, Linux, MacOS, OS/2 and Windows.
I did not verify the download. Normally the download do that, yes?
No. Many major Linux distributions will have instructions or a link to instructions for verifying a download as well as the the valid checksum. I don't know if Neon does this, check their download page.
You can boot Neon to an option to use it as a 'live' system rather than installing it? If you can do that, open a terminal and run the command to output information to post here. It will show your drive and partition information as well as any free (unallocated) disk space so we have more accurate information to use. If Mint boots, you can do it from Mint.
Code:
sudo fdisk -l
The file you refer to "cdrom/casper/vmlinuz" should be on the USB you created.
Quote:
dev/nvme0n1p3 ..Root.. ext4.. 204 GiB
Is that the partition on which you have Mint? Or is that the partition on which you wish to install Neon. You show it as an ext4 filesystem but you said you did not select to format?
No. Many major Linux distributions will have instructions or a link to instructions for verifying a download as well as the the valid checksum. I don't know if Neon does this, check their download page.
You can boot Neon to an option to use it as a 'live' system rather than installing it? If you can do that, open a terminal and run the command to output information to post here. It will show your drive and partition information as well as any free (unallocated) disk space so we have more accurate information to use. If Mint boots, you can do it from Mint.
Code:
sudo fdisk -l
The file you refer to "cdrom/casper/vmlinuz" should be on the USB you created.
Is that the partition on which you have Mint? Or is that the partition on which you wish to install Neon. You show it as an ext4 filesystem but you said you did not select to format?
Thats right. I did with Rescatux split the partition that was ext4, so I presume Rescatux did this.
Gparted: /dev/nvme0n1p1 efisystem part fat32/boot/efi and --n1p2 ext4 and --n1p3 root ext4 ( after n1p1 and n1p2 I see an litle sign: a key maybe, or?) thats the disk I think p2 is Linux Mint and on p3 I will install Neon. I find on the internet a intereting article : a multiple install of Linux distros together with Windows and BSD 10 distros together. https://makkelijkelinuxtips.blogspot...startbaar.html it is in Dutch, but you can translate it with Google of course.
It is difficult to understand the output you posted. Run sudo fdisk -l and post the output here using the QUOTE or CODE tags. Mouse over the icons at the top of the input page here, the one with the # symbol is CODE tag and the one to the left is the QUOTE tag. Makes it much easier to read.
If you are booting into Mint, you can run df -h from a terminal and it will show which partition is root under the Mounted on column, should show /. You need to find out which partition Mint is on so you don't overwrite it with your Neon install.
Quote:
a multiple install of Linux distros together with Windows and BSD 10 distros together.
If you are interested in multiple distros on a single computer, the link below might be of interest to you. Note the date in the first post.
It is difficult to understand the output you posted. Run sudo fdisk -l and post the output here using the QUOTE or CODE tags. Mouse over the icons at the top of the input page here, the one with the # symbol is CODE tag and the one to the left is the QUOTE tag. Makes it much easier to read.
If you are booting into Mint, you can run df -h from a terminal and it will show which partition is root under the Mounted on column, should show /. You need to find out which partition Mint is on so you don't overwrite it with your Neon install.
If you are interested in multiple distros on a single computer, the link below might be of interest to you. Note the date in the first post.
Apparaat Begin End Sectors Size Type
/dev/nvme0n1p1 2048 1050623 1048576 512M EFI-systeem
/dev/nvme0n1p2 1050624 571158527 570107904 271,8G Linux bestandssysteem < Linux Mint ? Used 35.13 GiB Unused 235.16 GiB
/dev/nvme0n1p3 571158528 1000215182 429056655 204,6G Linux bestandssysteem < I am confuse ?? Used 8.19 GiB Unused 195.79 GiB . (No GRUB on begin screen!)
Disk /dev/sda: 465,76 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Disk model: TOSHIBA MQ01ABD0
Eenheid: sectors from 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sectorsize (logisch/fysiek): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
In-/execute size (minimal/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes
Disklabeltype: dos
Disk-ID: 0x3ea4dbf4
Maybe on this disk I can install Neon?
It is a lot easier for members here to read terminal output if you post it using Code tags as explained in post 8 above. Also, since you seem to be able to boot Mint, you can determine which partition Mint is on if you boot Mint, open a terminal and run the command: df -h
That will output information such as in my example below which shows which is the root filesystem partition. In my example below, it shows the root filesystem is on partition 4. From your earlier post, I would guess Mint is on parittion 2 but that can be easily verified this way.
Code:
/dev/nvme0n1p4 47G 20G 25G 45% /
Again, based on the information you have posted, the only operating system you now have installed is Mint. In that case, there will be no Grub screen as there is no need to make a selection. You can change that so that if there are problems you can boot into an Advanced option.
You indicate the output shows 8.9GB used on partition 3. That could be just data or an attempt to install another OS.
It is possible to install Mint on /dev/sda but the problem remains that if you do an install in EFI mode, will the Neon installer overwrite the boot code on the nvme drive EFI partition with Mint. I don't know as I don't use either but I do know that Ubuntu does this. I believe it is the Ubiquity installer on Ubuntu that does this so if Mint uses something else, this may not happen. Before trying this, I would suggest you back up at least any personal files that are important to you.
It is a lot easier for members here to read terminal output if you post it using Code tags as explained in post 8 above. Also, since you seem to be able to boot Mint, you can determine which partition Mint is on if you boot Mint, open a terminal and run the command: df -h
That will output information such as in my example below which shows which is the root filesystem partition. In my example below, it shows the root filesystem is on partition 4. From your earlier post, I would guess Mint is on parittion 2 but that can be easily verified this way.
Code:
/dev/nvme0n1p4 47G 20G 25G 45% /
Again, based on the information you have posted, the only operating system you now have installed is Mint. In that case, there will be no Grub screen as there is no need to make a selection. You can change that so that if there are problems you can boot into an Advanced option.
You indicate the output shows 8.9GB used on partition 3. That could be just data or an attempt to install another OS.
It is possible to install Mint on /dev/sda but the problem remains that if you do an install in EFI mode, will the Neon installer overwrite the boot code on the nvme drive EFI partition with Mint. I don't know as I don't use either but I do know that Ubuntu does this. I believe it is the Ubiquity installer on Ubuntu that does this so if Mint uses something else, this may not happen. Before trying this, I would suggest you back up at least any personal files that are important to you.
I did save in Mint a new version of Neon. Message from the other saved Neon distro : ' Boost python find error in task " unpack" .
Set this Neon distro on USB and see no problem with install on the Toshiba drive. Thanks every one for their help and patient with a, sometimes, retarded, person.
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