Start *top* command with memory sort? (or any other available field)

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dedec0

Do you know where would I find the source code for top? Or which package is it part of? (which would help me to find the source code in the app repository)

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No clue to where the project is...

Found something... debianish distributions have 'top' in the procps package.

My procps package has some more info:

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Estes são utilitários para navegar no sistema de arquivos /proc, que não é
um sistema de arquivos de verdade mas sim uma forma do núcleo ("kernel")
fornecer informações sobre o estado das entradas em sua tabela de
processos. (e.g. rodando, parado ou "zumbi"). São fornecidos tanto
utilitários em linha de comando quanto de tela cheia. É necessário ncurses
para utilitários em tela cheia. Mais informações podem ser encontradas no
site web do procps http://procps.sf.net/

Este pacote inclui os seguintes utilitários: top, uptime, tload, free,
vmstat, watch, skill, pmap, pgrep, slabtop e pwdx.

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The EzekielProject

Check here for source code

Thank you! But that is a surprise! I just found /usr/bin/top in the procps package here (see my previous post).

Which of these two should be chosen? Why?

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 12:58 PM

Quoting http://procps.sourceforge.net/ now:

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Procps - The /proc file system utilities

procps is the package that has a bunch of small useful utilities that give information about processes using the /proc filesystem. The package includes the programs ps, top, vmstat, w, kill, free, slabtop, and skill.

Version 3 includes NPTL thread support, a rewritten top, many bug fixes, performance improvements, and new features.

The latest release is procps-3.2.8.tar.gz. See the download page for past releases.

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3.2.8 that is the top version I have!

But...

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Last-changed date last changed: Sun May 10 2009

:'(

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 01:00 PM

Debian repository points to a different page for the package procps:

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/procps

https://gitorious.org/procps => 404 :-\ grrrrrr

TheEzekielProject · 01-02-2017, 01:03 PM

Do you mean which should you choose between just top or procps? I have procps installed because they are useful at times

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 01:04 PM

(...)

https://packages.debian.org/stretch/procps

and

https://packages.debian.org/sid/procps

point to a different project page:

https://gitlab.com/procps-ng/procps

Anyway, I will downloaded the source from one of these two packages here, hoping for no problems to compile...

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The EzekielProject

Do you mean which should you choose between just top or procps? I have procps installed because they are useful at times

I meant to ask which project to use: procps.sf.net (for the package I have top installed with) or that "unix-top" page you pointed to.

I have procps installed because it came with Ubuntu (I surely guess 'top' was not something added by other packages I installed. It was here before all of them).

But procps project page seems to be static since 2009? I have its last version! Skim my last posts... maybe you did not read them yet, since they were made quickly...

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Habitual

Hope This "helps" http://unix.stackexchange.com/questi...icular-sorting

The above discussion says the version is 3.2.8, same as mine. Great! But bad... does not solve. Quote that discussion, some answers below:

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On my linux system, top (procps-ng version 3.3.9) has an -o switch:
-o :Override-sort-field as: -o fieldname

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So, top -o RES starts top sorted by resident memory size.
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I do not have that switch but, as otherwise said, my version is 3.2.8, the last version of procps - in the project page, I suppose!

But why is that "procps-ng"? What is that ng for? Is ng some localization I have not seen before?

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Habitual

Hope This "helps" http://unix.stackexchange.com/questi...icular-sorting

Another quote from that discussion:

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FYI, there are differing versions of top on various Linux distros, so you might want to make your A more specific. – slm♦ Nov 11 '14 at 15:58
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Top (and a few other utilities) seems to be a nice mess...

I think I will just download the source code for my top and add a command line switch to give it another rc file. I imagine that should be easy enough... other similar suggestions are welcome!

TheEzekielProject · 01-02-2017, 01:38 PM

Ah. Jessie (stable), Sid (unstable) and Stretch (testing) are just different releases of debian.
I found the link to the source code on sourceforge via wikipedia. Idk much about your system so it's hard to say which would be appropriate for you. I would go whatever route is easiest to obtain it from.

That link to gitlab looked recent As far as the differences between procps and procps-ng, this thread might be of interest

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The EzekielProject

Ah. Jessie (stable), Sid (unstable) and Stretch (testing) are just different releases of debian.
I found the link to the source code on sourceforge via wikipedia. Idk much about your system so it's hard to say which would be appropriate for you. I would go whatever route is easiest to obtain it from.

That link to gitlab looked recent

I knew they were different releases. But I could not guess, without searching for it, which were what. Thank you! (=

Ubuntu used (or created) a very simple but effective idea: release names have alphabetical order - great!

I opened the gitlab page before making that post, it is active. I will compare the source got from there to the source of my system package. If compiling steps are easy and most (or all, I would wish) the same, great.

TheEzekielProject · 01-02-2017, 01:51 PM

Good luck!

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The EzekielProject

Check here for source code

https://sourceforge.net/projects/unixtop/

surely is *not* the right top. Look at its files and dates:

Code:

 top-3.8beta1	2008-05-07		 258	

 top-3.7	2008-02-27		 1	

 top-3.6.1	2007-04-20		 1	

 top-3.6	2006-04-08		 2	

 top-3.5.1	2004-11-29		 2

Different project, same name, and this one has very little use, as we see (the third column is downloads/week in SF). Anyone here thinks differently?

dedec0 · 01-02-2017, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by The EzekielProject

That link to gitlab looked recent As far as the differences between procps and procps-ng, this thread might be of interest

The thread looks great. Then it points to a file:

https://gitorious.org/procps/procps/blobs/master/NEWS

Guess what! 404...

The next post point to something better, though:

https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermai...il/022845.html

Which is written, in an Arch Linux mailing list:

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[arch-dev-public] Moving from procps to procps-ng?
Eric Bélanger snowmaniscool at gmail.com
Mon Apr 23 20:29:40 EDT 2012

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Hi,

The procps project didn't had any new release for a while and the
current package use a dozen of patches to fix miscellenaous things.
I'm thinking about switching to procps-ng[1]. Procps-ng is a fork of
procps by Debian, Fedora and openSUSE. Gentoo is also using procps-ng
(although, like Debian, the package is still named procps).

I also intend to replace the home made sysctl.conf that we currently
provide by the upstream version of that file.

Any comments, objections?

Eric

[1] http://gitorious.org/procps/

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The mess grows a bit... O,o

TheEzekielProject · 01-02-2017, 02:34 PM

Yes, I noticed those dates and the seemingly low number of downloads, but I'd bet most of the time top is installed from the procps package and that respository seems to be a standalone for top. Also notice on the main page "Last Update: 2016-02-03" so it does seem to be maintained. I also saw that first link was dead but the second was active and still seemed relevant.

If you mentioned before I must have missed it, but what happens if you try, for instance:

Code:

 top -o %MEM

?