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Old 11-11-2003, 11:58 PM   #1
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RedHat 9 problem


Has anybody noticed if redhat 9 slows down your internet connection?

For some reason my internet connection slowed down.
I have installed redhat several times and at the begining everything is fine but after a whille the problem comes back. i have also changed my network card for a new one but nothing happened.

I have cable and im sharing internet with a friend thorugh a router. My frined's internet speed seems fine.
I have a hp computer with 733 mhz and 320 of ram

Any ideas

Anything will be helpfull

Thanks
 
Old 11-12-2003, 02:04 AM   #2
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Check through your /var/log/syslog for any errors pertaining to network connectivity. RH should NOT slow down you network. Nor should any other OS linux or otherwise.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 04:18 AM   #3
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Re: RedHat 9 problem

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Originally posted by israel
I have a hp computer with 733 mhz and 320 of ram
Thanks
Linux was not designed to be a front end user OS. Linux Redhat 9.0 is by far more powerful then any of it's previous designs. Though Linux can be used as a front end user OS, it uses far more resorces then that of Windows 2000. 733Mhz is a bit harsh for Linux Redhat 9. If you intend to use it as a front end user OS, you can try using Linux Redhat 7.3. You may find it a lot faster for your needs. If the internet on a seperate computer is running slower, I advise you to follow up with Adz's comment.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 04:39 AM   #4
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I disagree. I don't see why linux can't be a front end OS. I mainly use (debian) linux and I'm thrilled with it. The security, the configurability, the versatility. I'm not saying windows doesn't have it's place (I dual-boot) but I like linux more.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 07:41 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by adz
I disagree. I don't see why linux can't be a front end OS. I mainly use (debian) linux and I'm thrilled with it. The security, the configurability, the versatility. I'm not saying windows doesn't have it's place (I dual-boot) but I like linux more.
I agree with your disagree. However, I never said it could not be a front end OS. I said it was not designed to be one. Linux Rh9 takes more memory to be idle then Windows ME takes to run programs actively. Linux Rh9 takes almost 400MB of RAM to run as a front end user with it's background environment. Each process is running separately on a CPU. Those processes using 400MB of RAM on a CPU speed as a P3 or Duron 733Mhz is overkill. He doesn't even have 400MB, so he is using some swap each and every time it starts up a program. This in turn takes CPU power. 733Mhz is perfect in commandline, but not under stuff like KDE or Gnome with Rh9. Though Linux would prove far more stable then Windows, the OS itself takes more resources to run because of how it's designed. This in turn is why Linux is so much more powerful.

Last edited by dolvmin; 11-12-2003 at 07:44 AM.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 08:10 PM   #6
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Slower speed on Redhat?

Personaly I really dont think you can get slowed down internet by using Linux. I run a dual-boot also, Redhat 9/Win. 98. Ive experianced a slowdown as well, it could be due to a router or cable. Also sometimes Cable companys have problems and slower speed results. If you still have problems than I have no Idea, what speed is your cable anyways? Im not sure how to do it on Linux very well but you can easily do it in windows. Try monitoring both OS's speed in internet. other than that I would have to know more about your setup.
 
Old 11-12-2003, 08:24 PM   #7
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run ifconfig and look for errors on the interface..
 
Old 11-12-2003, 09:24 PM   #8
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I don't see Linux as using a lot of resources, or should I say wasting them.

Distro: RedHat 9
kernel: 2.6-test9
wm: KDE

MemTotal: 512008 kB
MemFree: 335608 kB
Buffers: 12668 kB
Cached: 89192 kB
SwapCached: 0 kB
Active: 117432 kB
Inactive: 33180 kB
HighTotal: 0 kB
HighFree: 0 kB
LowTotal: 512008 kB
LowFree: 335608 kB
SwapTotal: 1004020 kB
SwapFree: 1004020 kB
Dirty: 720 kB
Writeback: 0 kB
Mapped: 77136 kB
Slab: 21120 kB
Committed_AS: 75712 kB
PageTables: 1396 kB
VmallocTotal: 516024 kB
VmallocUsed: 1764 kB
VmallocChunk: 514172 kB
 
Old 11-12-2003, 11:45 PM   #9
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I agree with you there. I had a response all ready but the site wouldn't let me post so I couldn't be bothered retyping it. Basically I said that I only had 256 Mb RAM and was using no swap.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 04:14 PM   #10
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Re: RedHat 9 problem

Quote:
Originally posted by israel
Has anybody noticed if redhat 9 slows down your internet connection?
Thanks
Quote:
Originally posted by adz
I agree with you there. I had a response all ready but the site wouldn't let me post so I couldn't be bothered retyping it. Basically I said that I only had 256 Mb RAM and was using no swap.
Your not using Redhat 9 Adz. All versions of Linux are not the same. You're using Debian.

Quote:
Originally posted by adz
Check through your /var/log/syslog for any errors pertaining to network connectivity. RH should NOT slow down you network. Nor should any other OS linux or otherwise.
Adz, your not reading what I am typing.

Quote:
Originally posted by Dolvmin
Linux was not designed to be a front end user OS. Linux Redhat 9.0 is by far more powerful then any of it's previous designs. Though Linux can be used as a front end user OS, it uses far more resorces then that of Windows 2000. 733Mhz is a bit harsh for Linux Redhat 9. If you intend to use it as a front end user OS, you can try using Linux Redhat 7.3. You may find it a lot faster for your needs. If the internet on a seperate computer is running slower, I advise you to follow up with Adz's comment.
I'm offended by this Adz. Please keep this nice. <smiles>

Last edited by dolvmin; 11-14-2003 at 04:17 PM.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 05:43 PM   #11
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Not to step on the toes of anyone, but I'm running RH9 on a 750MHz. Laptop w/ 256MB RAM, Yes I noticed sometimes that it was slow (but I'm running on a wirless router, and othe PC's are working as well....

The question here is, WHEN do you notice that the connection is slow, and HOW?
I noticed by browsing the web using Mozilla.

Ginux

P.s. I just want to clear something up, LINUX is the kernel, the various distro's build/add/modify packages (touching up the kernel sometimes), The only difference are the packages.
Redhat is NOT Linux, Debian is NOT Linux, etc.... their are distribuitors of the Linux kernel.
(I don't mean to offend or insult anyone) it's just my post.

Last edited by Ginux; 11-14-2003 at 05:45 PM.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 06:39 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ginux
I just want to clear something up, LINUX is the kernel, the various distro's build/add/modify packages (touching up the kernel sometimes), The only difference are the packages.
If this is true then please answer the following:

Mandrake release there kernel for the design of a 586 system.

Redhat release there design for the 386 system.

Gentoos releases there design for the 686 system.

Yellow Dog release there design for the PPC system.

NOTE: My understanding supports half what your saying but I'm confused about the other half. My understanding applies to some distro's releasing the same Linux kernal, but not all distro's release the same Linux Kernel. An example: Mandrake and there 2.4.x-x on a 586 Kernel vs Redhat on there 2.4.x-x on a 386 (or 686) kernel. Can you please cure my curiosity?
 
Old 11-14-2003, 06:41 PM   #13
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Also, why is it that Mandrake recieves a vector error on install for some AMD systems but Redhat does not? Isn't the first thing to be compiled, the kernel?
 
Old 11-14-2003, 06:53 PM   #14
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Hey that's a great point. It is also true that the admin of the system has complete control over what they are running on the system. If you do a full install I would say compare it to WIndows 2000 server, not a windows desktop system.

Once you have done that I think you will see that it compares quite differently.

My meminfo from my previous post pretty much shows the memory use for a kde desktop.
Keep in mind that kde is very intense when compared to windows. For one I have a loaded panel, 4 desktops with 2.5 MB pictures on them, 6 virtual consoles, a system logging daemon, ssh server, kppp, a couple of shells open, and some other stuff.

Therefore I would like to know where the 400 MB figure for RH 9 comes from, since I'm using 180 MB and a lot of that is actually cached, not used.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 07:21 PM   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by dolvmin
If this is true then please answer the following:

Mandrake release there kernel for the design of a 586 system.

Redhat release there design for the 386 system.

Gentoos releases there design for the 686 system.

Yellow Dog release there design for the PPC system.

NOTE: My understanding supports half what your saying but I'm confused about the other half. My understanding applies to some distro's releasing the same Linux kernal, but not all distro's release the same Linux Kernel. An example: Mandrake and there 2.4.x-x on a 586 Kernel vs Redhat on there 2.4.x-x on a 386 (or 686) kernel. Can you please cure my curiosity?
Simple, because the company/people plan before hand, I'll try to explain...
Mandrake, is more for the end user, (that would explain the packages and driver support) so they prepare the kernel to set it self to the highest possibile configuration.
RedHat, is more of a general use (notice less packages) and they set the kernel to se it self to the best configuration.
Installing RH or SuSE, on a dual CPU machine would create a kernel called (2.4.20-smp**), the kernel recognized that the system had 2 or more cpu's so it compiled it self with smp support, using the same CD's on another single cpu system, would not enable smp.
(no that wasn't clear)
Let me try another way...
You can compile a kernel in Mandrake for a 386, or what ever.... The kernel (ex. 2.4.20) is the same for both, the only thing that changes is the configuration number (2.4.20-**whatever**) anybody can d/l the latest kernel from the web and install it on ANY distro (as long it's a linux of course )
I remmember reading somewhere about this in more detail... I'll post it ASAP when I find it.

Ginux
 
  


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