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Old 08-09-2007, 12:17 PM   #1
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Problems using gparted!


I wanted to seperate my ubuntu partition into 2 parts!
But the Ubuntu livecd refuses me to that!
I don't get it & I doesn't seemed to work!
HELP!
 
Old 08-09-2007, 01:21 PM   #2
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This might help,

You want to make sure the partition(s) are not currently mounted.
type:
Code:
mount
from a command prompt.

if your partitions are listed as mounted, you will want to unmount them:
Code:
umount /dev/name
where 'name' is the partition (ex: sda1, hda1, etc). This command also requires root privs - so either prefix it with sudo (ubuntu) or type 'su root' before that command

Restart qtparted and click on the partition. If the status is busy, you did not successfully unmount the partition. if it says available, keep doing your work.

From there, I can't help you much further. I have only used multiple partitions when I am installing the distro, not after.
If you are installing ubuntu, you will want to set the mount point for each partition, eg: /home might be one partition, /usr might be another, etc.
 
Old 08-09-2007, 01:57 PM   #3
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You want to make sure the partition(s) are not currently mounted.
running from live CD , I doubt that is an issue

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I wanted to seperate my ubuntu partition into 2 parts!
But the Ubuntu livecd refuses me to that!
I don't get it & I doesn't seemed to work!
HELP!
partitioning tools typically don't "split" partitions. You have to resize one of the partitions, and then create a new one in the empty space.

back up any important data first....
 
Old 08-10-2007, 04:59 AM   #4
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running from live CD , I doubt that is an issue

partitioning tools typically don't "split" partitions. You have to resize one of the partitions, and then create a new one in the empty space.

back up any important data first....
Yes that what I did Resize & create a new partition. But it doesn't even want me 2 do that!
 
Old 08-10-2007, 05:49 AM   #5
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This could be an Ubuntu issue. I was a huge fan of theirs until a was bitten by a serious bug in their gparted package. It seems that no matter what you do, it just keeps remounting drives about as soon as you unmount them. It is quite possible that this also happens if you use the livecd. I would strongly recommend getting the stand-alone gparted livecd before worse things happen. It took me a week to sort out a partition that was erroneously reformatted because of that automounting thing. Just a warning.
 
Old 08-10-2007, 06:03 AM   #6
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This could be an Ubuntu issue. I was a huge fan of theirs until a was bitten by a serious bug in their gparted package. It seems that no matter what you do, it just keeps remounting drives about as soon as you unmount them. It is quite possible that this also happens if you use the livecd. I would strongly recommend getting the stand-alone gparted livecd before worse things happen. It took me a week to sort out a partition that was erroneously reformatted because of that automounting thing. Just a warning.
Thanks! This is so typical of Ubuntu or Linux for that matter! Almost nothing seems to be working!
Typical Ubuntu! I'd be very scarred to use this on business! I swear to God!
 
Old 08-10-2007, 06:27 AM   #7
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I can see your point but "almost nothing" does seem a bit of an overstatement. Of course, if you like stability, it is a good idea not to use the latest release. It's just how Linux ticks. Commercial companies spend huge amounts of money on testing and debugging, which makes them rather slow and expensive. In Linux land, things are released as soon as they have been found to be acceptably stable and it's the users that act as testers. Faster and cheaper but involving some risks for the user. Therefore: if you want stable, use a distribution that has been out for a while. Ubuntu 6.06, for example. Unfortunately, the older releases don't always work (well) with the latest hardware.

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Old 08-10-2007, 06:49 AM   #8
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I can see your point but "almost nothing" does seem a bit of an overstatement. Of course, if you like stability, it is a good idea not to use the latest release. It's just how Linux ticks. Commercial companies spend huge amounts of money on testing and debugging, which makes them rather slow and expensive. In Linux land, things are released as soon as they have been found to be acceptably stable and it's the users that act as testers. Faster and cheaper but involving some risks for the user. Therefore: if you want stable, use a distribution that has been out for a while. Ubuntu 6.06, for example. Unfortunately, the older releases don't always work (well) with the latest hardware.
Exactly either way your screwed! Get the point! Plus I'm looking for a good dl manager but none exist in ubuntu! None! There are so many badly made software in here! What's the point on having free software when you can barely use it!
Stable....? The OS is stable, but the programs on it! NO! Even firefox is alot buggy in Ubuntu than in XP!
 
Old 08-10-2007, 07:22 AM   #9
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Exactly either way your screwed! Get the point! Plus I'm looking for a good dl manager but none exist in ubuntu! None! There are so many badly made software in here! What's the point on having free software when you can barely use it!
Stable....? The OS is stable, but the programs on it! NO! Even firefox is alot buggy in Ubuntu than in XP!
I can give you a very long list of things that work better on Linux than on Windows. I can also give you a list of problems that I have had. Only you can decide if the benefits of Linux are important to you.
Your particular issue can--I promise you--be solved. For starters, what exactly happens when you attempt to resize a partition?
 
Old 08-10-2007, 07:39 AM   #10
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Plus I'm looking for a good dl manager but none exist in ubuntu!
Have you tried d4x yet? Or is that not available for Ubuntu? (Check out System > Administration > Synaptic).

By the way: I have been thinking over this partitioning issue. Is there any chance that you are trying to split a fourth primary partition? That won't work because four is the maximum that you can have regardless of the operating system.
 
Old 08-10-2007, 07:50 AM   #11
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I can give you a very long list of things that work better on Linux than on Windows. I can also give you a list of problems that I have had. Only you can decide if the benefits of Linux are important to you.
Your particular issue can--I promise you--be solved. For starters, what exactly happens when you attempt to resize a partition?
I wish a could post up all my hateful rant w/ Ubuntu's issues!
And I'm just "Regular" user, I could only imagine if I use Ubuntu for business. I think all the problems that would come out of the woodwork!
Here's a good deal you post something that a regular use would find better when using Ubuntu!
And will tell you why it sucks sooo BAD!

Anyways Ubuntu just tells me that it can't resize my hd! There's no specific error!
 
Old 08-10-2007, 07:52 AM   #12
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Have you tried d4x yet? Or is that not available for Ubuntu? (Check out System > Administration > Synaptic).

By the way: I have been thinking over this partitioning issue. Is there any chance that you are trying to split a fourth primary partition? That won't work because four is the maximum that you can have regardless of the operating system.
Oh i tried it! It sucks I WANT, yes you heard me WANT! A dl manager as good as flashget or IDM in windows! Their easy use & faster!
I'm currently using downloaditall & it still sucks! Download is slow in Ubuntu both in torrent downloading & http downloading!

No my partition in windows is on different hd & my partition in Ubuntu is in another hd!
So my ubuntu partition is only one!
 
Old 08-10-2007, 08:04 AM   #13
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Downloaditall? Never used that one, I use DownThemAll with firefox (can be installed from the firefox extensions page).

slower torrents? Don't know that either, azureus isn't any slower than it is on windows.

And another question: can you tell me how you are trying to size? Do you move the end of the partition to the left? Aren't you using a format (such as xfs) that can't be resized? You did click on Apply at the end?

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Old 08-10-2007, 08:09 AM   #14
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I wish a could post up all my hateful rant w/ Ubuntu's issues!
And I'm just "Regular" user, I could only imagine if I use Ubuntu for business. I think all the problems that would come out of the woodwork!
Here's a good deal you post something that a regular use would find better when using Ubuntu!
And will tell you why it sucks sooo BAD!

Anyways Ubuntu just tells me that it can't resize my hd! There's no specific error!
I won't try to trivialize your problems, but I use Ubuntu in my office and everything is going quite smoothly. In your case, you might want to try something else. I just switched to PCLinuxOS at home and I am quite impressed.

Running in Linux, please open a terminal and enter "sudo fdisk -l" (ell, not one) and post the results here.

Did you try the GParted stand-alone CD, as someone suggested?
 
Old 08-10-2007, 08:18 AM   #15
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Downloaditall? Never used that one, I use DownThemAll with firefox (can be installed from the firefox extensions page).

slower torrents? Don't know that either, azureus isn't any slower than it is on windows.

And another question: can you tell me how you are trying to size? Do you move the end of the partition to the left? Aren't you using a format (such as xfs) that can't be resized? You did click on Apply at then end?
Um you see even in Ubuntu! Most users use the utorrent! And using utorrent in windows & Ubuntu there's a obvious difference in speed!
I could reach about 100+ kbps in Xp while in ubuntu & still using the same file I could only cap to about 50+ kpbs! Big difference don't you think? Oh btw Azureus in Ubuntu sucks!

Yes I downloaditall works in firefox & not that well I might add! Coz I tried splitting my dls but it just repeats the dls again for some WEIRD reason!

Now on subject of partitioning:
I don't really know what your talking about! Your talking to a noob here! Not Bill Gates! I'm using the live cd & use gparted & tried splitting the it!
I don't what else to explain to you coz I can't get the livecd to use a screenshot so that you can see & prove to you that I'm not lying!
 
  


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