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Old 12-24-2022, 12:33 PM   #31
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I never said "ill repute", or anything about his intentions or the quality of his practice. What I DID say was if there was any sort of problem (typically HIPPA these days), they'll do any/everything to get out of it, or to mitigate the liability. While HE may be your friend, his malpractice insurance company is NOT...and if they see even a HINT that they can pawn off something on you, they'll do it. Because they'll ask, "Where did you get the system that was compromised?"...and it'll be "My friend xxx set it up for me".

And again, "accessing medical records" is far to nebulous in this context.

Indeed, and until very late in this thread it certainly read as if you were acting as such, which is why you received the advice you did.

This is fairly ironic; you say you come here as it's a 'treasure trove' for those who want to learn, because of the depth of knowledge. Then ignore that as 'internet lore'?? Not sure why you claim all gaming systems use non-ECC RAM, but even if so...so what?? Your reference was from an experiment done twelve years ago, and if you want to look for vulnerabilities in things, ECC RAM is going to be WAY down on the list of attack vectors.

Again, looking at medical images needs something that can handle high graphics. Unsure as to how something like this:
https://www.newegg.com/asus-ga15dk-d...82E16883221675

...is an 'unstable toy' with:
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5800X Processor (32M Cache, up to 4.7 GHz) with ROG B550 board & chipset
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6 (Base: 1500MHz, Boost: 1755MHz, TDP: 220W), GPU Ports: 1x HDMI, 3x DP, 1x DVI
  • 1TB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD, 16GB DDR4 3200 MHz RAM, Windows 10 Home, Gigabit Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac)
  • 700W PSU
  • Gigabit ethernet (wired) with 802.11ac wifi and bluetooth 5
  • 7.1 surround sound
Asus, with 1 year warranty. Or can you build a comparable system for less, when that graphics card alone is about $700?
Perception is such a personal thing.
 
Old 12-24-2022, 02:44 PM   #32
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Perception is such a personal thing.
And unless it can be backed up with anything, is useless as a true measure of anything real. Unsure of how changing a case would turn it from 'unstable toy' into 'high end graphics workstation', or how the type of RAM would make it more secure. Good luck.
 
Old 12-25-2022, 03:49 AM   #33
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Yes, Windows-origin bootloader malware is real thing and the only way around that is to ensure that Windows never has direct access to the partition.

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I've read that VirtualBox is easier to use but QEMU delivers better performance. IME, QEMU is more difficult to install. But, once I learn how, I could write a step by step guide.
VirtualBox is good and you can get a lot of advice about advanced tips on using it from people here.

My own preference has been for Qemu and I would agree about the large number of options perhaps making it look harder to use than it really is. I have found that the way around that is to launch it using a short shell script and just keep adding and removing options in the script until I have everything needed for that project. You can do some really neat things with it that way. There is also a graphical front-end for Qemu which can help at the beginning but even after using the GUI for a while it turns out that a short shell script is the best for my activities.

VMware is basically proprietary and a chronic license violator to add non-technical reasons to the long list of technical reasons not to use it.

With the caveat that I don't use or condone the use of NTFS: Perhaps if you run Windows in a VM, and you have the data in the VM in a separate partition, then I would guess that you ought to be able to access the same files via the GNU/Linux host too when the VM is not in use.
 
Old 12-25-2022, 12:12 PM   #34
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Yes, Windows-origin bootloader malware is real thing and the only way around that is to ensure that Windows never has direct access to the partition.



VirtualBox is good and you can get a lot of advice about advanced tips on using it from people here.

My own preference has been for Qemu and I would agree about the large number of options perhaps making it look harder to use than it really is. I have found that the way around that is to launch it using a short shell script and just keep adding and removing options in the script until I have everything needed for that project. You can do some really neat things with it that way. There is also a graphical front-end for Qemu which can help at the beginning but even after using the GUI for a while it turns out that a short shell script is the best for my activities.

VMware is basically proprietary and a chronic license violator to add non-technical reasons to the long list of technical reasons not to use it.

With the caveat that I don't use or condone the use of NTFS: Perhaps if you run Windows in a VM, and you have the data in the VM in a separate partition, then I would guess that you ought to be able to access the same files via the GNU/Linux host too when the VM is not in use.
Thank you for your further perspective.

I'm not an NTFS fan either (ext4 for me), but it's still better than that fragile, non-journal FAT32 file system chosen for the UEFI's, ESP boot partition forming the heart of a allegedly more 'secure' boot process rife with superfluous rituals which my suspicious nature regards as being but a Fabian means of instituting the eventual wide-spread adoption of cryptographically signed hardware components whose certificates could be revoked at will.

'Sounds far fetched? Well here at the hospital, the WiFi that patients and visitors have access to is provided by Aruba Networks under contract. Aside from offering a blistering 55Kb/s down & up and two-hour session limits, it also heavily censors numerous web sites like Google Cache and a number of small, on-line IT publications.

This censorship appears in Firefox as various network errors or out-of-date site signatures. Yet when the same URLs are run in Chromium, the truth is revealed in the form of censorship notices — complete with an appeal button that never works.

Now then, since 'Secure' Boot has gotten nearly everyone used to having cryptographically signed kernels and drivers etc, how much longer will it be until the same approach is applied to most PC hardware?

Whether or not, say, one's Internet-facing NIC will continue to pass an attestation test could be capriciously determined by some faceless ideologue or perhaps an AI after evaluating one's social media post history or any other range of factors.

11/03/2022
Trusted Hardware Identity Management | Microsoft Learn
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/az...ity-management

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According to this, GPU pass-through is not supported in VirtualBox 7.0.4 (the current VB version):

17. Dec 2022
virtualbox.org • View topic - Graphics card passthrough
https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=108091

Unfortunately, I don't have the hardware required to hands-on test this comprehensive step-by-step guide which covers AMD and nVidia GPUs:

25-12-2022
virtualization - Ubuntu 22.04 GPU passthrough (QEMU) - Ask Ubuntu
https://askubuntu.com/questions/1406...ssthrough-qemu

========

In the interest of optimizing everyone's time, it's likely best that I refrain from posting further in this thread until after my doctor acquaintance sends me his applications list and any other tangibles that I can think of asking him for.

Last edited by MIJ-VI; 12-26-2022 at 06:57 AM. Reason: 55kB/s should've been 55Kb/s
 
Old 12-25-2022, 03:26 PM   #35
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In the interest of optimizing everyone's time, it's likely best that I refrain from posting further in this thread until after my doctor acquaintance sends me his applications list and any other tangibles that I can think of asking him for.
Since you do not consider yourself as acting in the role of a consultant I would suggest that you be very clear in discussions with the MD that you are only acting in the role of a friend and experienced IT user but that you are not making suggestions but merely providing options that he can choose from.

Even then it is an extremely gray area to outsiders looking in whether your assistance is actually as an unpaid consultant or as a friend. Especially since you continue to ask for more and more info from him on the subject. Your active participation leans more and more toward the role of consultant. This does not seem a casual friendship depth of communication on the topic.

The system suggested above would be more than adequate for all but the most intensive of graphics artists and most gamers would swoon to have a machine of that quality. Suggesting a machine of that quality would be good. Suggesting individual build-it-yourself parts is only for the die-hard specialist with in depth knowledge of the hardware. Users vs power users vs experts. Each have their own level of knowledge and always base any discussion on the level of the audience.
 
Old 12-25-2022, 11:09 PM   #36
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TOTAL SPAM ARTICLE.

We all know in the USA that Microsoft paid lobby money illegally (largest sum in world history infact), after which "bribing congress became legal", which got them "LEAD OF THE COMMITTEE OF HEALTHCARE COMPUTING GOVERNMENT COUNCIL POWER" which MICROSOFT used to hack and jab standards to be microsoft-only standards.

Your post is political, debatable, and subject to lawsuits.
 
Old 12-26-2022, 10:04 AM   #37
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TOTAL SPAM ARTICLE.
We all know in the USA that Microsoft paid lobby money illegally (largest sum in world history infact), after which "bribing congress became legal", which got them "LEAD OF THE COMMITTEE OF HEALTHCARE COMPUTING GOVERNMENT COUNCIL POWER" which MICROSOFT used to hack and jab standards to be microsoft-only standards.

Your post is political, debatable, and subject to lawsuits.
Really? What was the 'largest sum'??? Surprising no one else knows about this...even more surprising that no one from Microsoft is on the council:
https://www.gao.gov/press-release/ga...ry-committee-0
https://www.healthit.gov/hitac/commi...ommittee-hitac

Or that (if you read) they use healthcare standards, focused around digital imaging...and if you know anything about those systems, they run NOTHING from Microsoft. Try again, or feel free to bring whatever 'lawsuit' you'd like.
 
Old 12-26-2022, 08:09 PM   #38
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Saving this here for later,

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The chief executive of one of Europe’s biggest insurance companies has warned that cyber attacks, rather than natural catastrophes, will become “uninsurable” as the disruption from hacks [sic] continues to grow. Insurance executives have been increasingly vocal in recent years about systemic risks, such as pandemics and climate change, that test the sector’s ability to provide coverage. For the second year in a row, natural catastrophe-related claims are expected to top $100bn. But Mario Greco, chief executive at insurer Zurich, told the Financial Times that cyber was the risk to watch.
-- "Cyber attacks set to become ‘uninsurable’, says Zurich chief" https://www.ft.com/content/63ea94fa-...8-ea29cc83637d
That's a heads up for those still toying with the idea that new deployments of M$ Windows might somehow be acceptable in any way.
 
Old 02-09-2023, 09:14 AM   #39
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In spite of his thrice assertion to do so, my doctor acquaintance never did e-mail me any pertinent info re his intended PC build — which he seemed determined to DIY.

He also has a link to this thread, which I stressed as being worthy of his examination.

However, his actions thus far have adequately underscored the level of interest he has assigned to this subject. Thus, I see no reason to compete with a now-established standard.
 
Old 02-09-2023, 09:20 AM   #40
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If this system is in any way "patient care critical", such as holding patient records, doing any form of monitoring, etc. then having one built by some randomer that has a parts "wish list" is (imho):

Warning: An Extremely Bad Idea


Anything of that nature should be from a known manufacturer and with an on-site warranty.

Unless there's a compelling software reason, I wouldn't consider using linux as the OS if there's any medical imaging involved. Even a quick look on this forum shows driver issues (especially with graphics cards) when there's updates to most of the popular distributions. This happens to a lesser extent when running / updating Windows.
I been watching this thread. Glad someone said this. I was going to. This is something you really don't want to get involved in. The legal side of this can come down on you in a worst case scenario. Let them get something from a proper vendor such as Dell, HP, Lenovo. They do stuff like this all the time. I see Lenovo stuff in particular all over the place at my ENT doctors office.

I know I'm late to the party but this can't be overstated enough.
 
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You find out what programs he wants to run and you build a platform to run them. It's one thing if he wants to access a web-based portal. It's another if he wants to run a serial port device that only has drivers for Windows 3.1.

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Old 02-13-2023, 10:13 PM   #42
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You find out what [file formats] he wants to [work with] and you build a platform to [use] them.
Control of the file formats is everything.
 
  


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