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Old 07-26-2005, 10:13 AM   #1
theutherwhitemeat
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Dual Boot Linux And WinXP


Hello.

I have just recently signed up here, and so I am quite a .
Anyway, I don't know too much about Linux, but here is my question anyway:


I am interested in buying Suse Linux 9.3 Pro Edition. But I know for a fact that not all of my hardware is going to be compatible in Linux. (Especially my WinModem). I was wondering if there was a way to Dual Boot Between Suse Linux 9.3 Pro, and Microsoft Windows XP Home. If possible, how?

Thank You.
 
Old 07-26-2005, 10:30 AM   #2
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You could start by googling this
"dual boot" windows linux

There's no need to buy Linux, there's plenty out there for free:

http://iso.linuxquestions.org/

Maybe mandrake, fedora or ubuntu would be good learning to start off with.
 
Old 07-26-2005, 10:38 AM   #3
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oh believe me. I have looked into that option many times, but with a 56k Dial Up Modem, that would take about 4days non-stop, and my ISP would probably kick me off of there survers. Not to mention disconnections and all that other good stuff. . I never realized all of these versions were free though.
 
Old 07-26-2005, 10:44 AM   #4
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http://www.ubuntulinux.org/shipit/link_view

ubuntu ships out free cd's, probably some of the others do too. Nothing to lose.
 
Old 07-26-2005, 10:50 AM   #5
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Free CD's???? Now thats what I want?! There has to be something for shipping I imagine however. I'll have to check up on Ubuntu though. I have never heard of it, and I am not sure how powerful it is compared to Suse, and Mandriva and all of those others.
 
Old 07-26-2005, 11:02 AM   #6
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Nevermind about the shipping part. I just went to the website, and there is no fee whatsoever. And it looks pretty powerful too! I think I will get it. Do you know of any other 'completely free versions' that will ship it to me?
 
Old 07-26-2005, 11:13 AM   #7
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ubuntu has a fairly lively forum on LQ. It's debian based so package management should be straightforward using apt-get. Don't worry too much about 'power'. All these distros are based on the Linux kernel which is the real powerhouse behind Linux.
 
Old 07-26-2005, 11:21 AM   #8
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If you want to stick with SUSE there may be another option for you.

Check in your area for a local linux group. If someone local to you is running SUSE and they are willing, it is ok and legal for them to make a copy of thier CD/DVD for you and give it to you.

If you get your hands on SUSE 9.3 you will like it I'm sure :-)

That is not to say that you won't like some other distros as well but SUSE is a real nice distro.
 
Old 07-28-2005, 10:06 AM   #9
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Windows XP and SUSE 9.3 will dual boot just fine. Partition your drive into two partions, install Windows first on one, SuSE next on the remaining partion. SuSE will autoconfigure grub for dual boot. If the modem is a conexant modem, tghey have Linux drivers for a small fee ($30) with free upgrades for life.
 
Old 07-31-2005, 01:38 AM   #10
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dual boot

If you are migrating to linux from MS, you may want to try Mandrake ( now Mandriva) 10.0. It found all my hardware and has a fairly intuitive GUI in the KDE desktop, but you can also do CL stuff if need be. The only thing I have found slightly negative about Mandrake (MDK) is the networking wizard is squirrely.

Here's my suggestion: If you are fairly new at installing OS's then install only linux first and pay attention to the installer, how it works, what order everything is installed, and what packages(programs) are installed by default and how to custom install packages. The whole install takes about 20 minutes and if you screw it up, you haven't lost much time.

Some may disagree, but if you try a dual boot with XP and then screw up the linux install, then you're out the hour and a half for the XP install as well as the linux install. Trust me ...if you're a noob, you don't want to be messing with recovery disks and swapping boot loaders here and there although some users will tell you that it's a good way to learn linux.

Dual boot:

1. Insert Wxp bootable disk and set BIOS to boot from CD rom
2. Use XP install disk to format your HD
3. Use the XP disk utility to create three partitions
4. This is a suggestion only....others may have better rationales for dividing up the HD but I have done it in approx. thirds....eg:
60gb hd is 20gb NTFS for Wxp, 20gb using FAT 32 file system for files (so Wxp and linux can both "see" it), and leave the last 20gb alone for linux.

5. Always install Wxp..... FIRST.... on the first 20gb ( be sure to format with NTFS if that's what you want). If you install linux first and then install XP, it will very likely hoard the MBR section of your HD and will not play nice with linux.
6. Insert linux CD and repeat process installing linux the bootloader (GRUB or LILO) on to the first partition (Where Wxp is) when asked by the linux installer.

I can tell you that Mandrake 10.0 installation was unbelievably easy. It located all the partitions, automatically partitioned the remaining space on the HD, and auto loaded the bootloader, found all my hardware and had drivers for everything and went onto the HD in about 15 to 20 minutes.

Also, if you are new to linux and using dialup...........I HIGHLY recommend that you resist the temptation to use an internal PCI winmodem or even a linux compatible internal PCI hardware modem. Yes, you can get them to work ( as I have) , but it is VERY LIKELY YOU W - I - L - L spend HOURS or DAYS finding drivers. Even if you buy a US Robotics PCI hdwr modem (which is compatible), you will have to make sure that the drivers on the included CD are compatible with the kernel version you are using, and to top it off, modem drivers require kernel sources to be installed..which ARE NOT loaded in some distros. Then you have to find them, find the packageloader your distro uses....etc.

Instead, I recommend going to the local thrift shop and buy a used external serial hdwr modem generally for $5 or less. ( do not buy external USB modems - they are generally winmodems) These serial modems require NO drivers, are generally faster than some internal PCI modems, and almost all older serial port modems will work with linux with no drivers required.
Post in these forums for a howto to use them with the Kppp dialer, which most distros have.

find cheap CDs here --> www.spidertools.com

Good luck

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