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OK i have tried a few different ways to back up all of mysql databses
First was a script run from cron it owrked fine for a while then i ran into a table corruption problem. Basically i gather that somone was making an update via one of our websites, and the dump was happening at the same time.
So itried the webmin backup and the same thing has happened.
Well ok i guess it should be easy since it made backups of everything, yeah i could also go back to using the mysqldump with the lock command, although it is REALLY slow since my dbase os around 100 mg the hotcopy takes about 9 secs and is done!!