USER_IN_WHITELIST DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST

mfoley · 10-03-2020, 07:29 PM

So, does anyone have any comments on why welcomelist_from is not working on my version 3.4.2 spamassassin? Is this feature not yet rolled out for this version? whitelist_from is back to working correctly in the 3.4.2 version, even so, I continue to see "USER_IN_WHITELIST DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST" in my X-Spam-Report.

boughtonp · 10-04-2020, 08:25 AM

Generally, if you're using vSTABLE you shouldn't be seeing vNEXT/dev features. If you are, either there's a misconfiguration on your side, and/or a bug in the software.

You're currently on v3.4.2 of SpamAssassin - if you can't see why that would be (partially?) pulling from trunk, you might want to check if v3.4.4 (released in January) solves the issue, otherwise report a bug and hope a sensible developer sees it and can explain what's going on.

scasey · 10-04-2020, 12:36 PM

Code:

* -0.0 USER_IN_WELCOMELIST user is listed in 'welcomelist_from'
* -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST

I'm not seeing that entry. Mine looks like:

Code:

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,DKIM_SIGNED,
	DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RDNS_NONE,T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL,
	USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1

and:

Code:

spamassassin -V
SpamAssassin version 3.4.2
# and 
spamd -V
SpamAssassin Server version 3.4.2

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfoley

So, does anyone have any comments on why welcomelist_from is not working on my version 3.4.2 spamassassin? Is this feature not yet rolled out for this version? whitelist_from is back to working correctly in the 3.4.2 version, even so, I continue to see "USER_IN_WHITELIST DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST" in my X-Spam-Report.

I note that your USER_IN_WELCOMELIST rule has a value of 0.0, which basically means it's turned off.
I don't get the deprecated notice, nor do I find USER_IN_WELCOMELIST in any of the .cf files.

mfoley · 10-05-2020, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boughtonp

Generally, if you're using vSTABLE you shouldn't be seeing vNEXT/dev features. If you are, either there's a misconfiguration on your side, and/or a bug in the software.

You're currently on v3.4.2 of SpamAssassin - if you can't see why that would be (partially?) pulling from trunk, you might want to check if v3.4.4 (released in January) solves the issue, otherwise report a bug and hope a sensible developer sees it and can explain what's going on.

Thanks, my v 3.4.2 is pulled from SlackBuilds. I don't get it from anywhere else. I've just downloaded from the same place 3.4.4. I'll reset my WHITELIST_FROM to WELCOMELIST_FROM and report back.

Quote:

Originally Posted by scasey

I'm not seeing that entry. Mine looks like:

Code:

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,DKIM_SIGNED,
	DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,RDNS_NONE,T_SPF_HELO_TEMPERROR,USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL,
	USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.1

and:

Code:

spamassassin -V
SpamAssassin version 3.4.2
# and 
spamd -V
SpamAssassin Server version 3.4.2

Interesting, while your spamassassin -V show 3.4.2, your X-Spam-Status line shows version 3.4.1. Hmmm, maybe that's why you don't see the "deprepcated" thing.

Quote:

I note that your USER_IN_WELCOMELIST rule has a value of 0.0, which basically means it's turned off.
I don't get the deprecated notice, nor do I find USER_IN_WELCOMELIST in any of the .cf files.

Yeah, I noticed that too. Maybe all having to do with the transition. It must have been in one of my 3.4.2 .cf files.

I now find numerous references to WELCOMELIST in /var/lib/spamassassin/3.004002/updates_spamassassin_org/, all of which are files dated as of my recent upgrade to 3.4.4. As mentioned, I'll change the keyword from WHITELIST to WELCOMELIST and see if this new 3.4.4 makes a difference. I'll post back.

LATER ...

With version 3.4.4 and still using WHITELIST I'm back to:

Code:

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-92.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FROM_EXCESS_BASE64,
        HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,HTML_MESSAGE,LOCAL_UTF_FROM,MIME_HTML_ONLY,
        RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2,USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,
        USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
        version=3.4.4-_revision__1.0__
X-Spam-Report: 
        * -0.0 USER_IN_WELCOMELIST user is listed in 'welcomelist_from'
        * -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST

Still showing USER_IN_WELCOMELIST with a score of -0.0. I'll give this config some time to run, then change local.cf entries to WELCOMELIST. Perhaps when I do that the score will change.

scasey · 10-05-2020, 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mfoley

Interesting, while your spamassassin -V show 3.4.2, your X-Spam-Status line shows version 3.4.1. Hmmm, maybe that's why you don't see the "deprepcated" thing.

Yeah, I noticed that too, and manually ran sa-update, but it didn't change anything (it's run several times per day via cron). Perhaps the upstream (I'm on CentOS 7) is not passing on those changes because of the "buginess" of them.

Be interesting to hear from other RHEL or CentOS users on this.

mfoley · 10-08-2020, 11:46 AM

OK, it's definite. The so-called deprecation of whitelist and replacement by welcomelist is definitely not working. Here is an example from yesterday with version 3.4.4 using whitelist:

Code:

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-101.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,
        USER_IN_WELCOMELIST,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
        version=3.4.4-_revision__1.0__
X-Spam-Report: 
        * -0.0 USER_IN_WELCOMELIST user is listed in 'welcomelist_from'
        * -100 USER_IN_WHITELIST DEPRECATED: See USER_IN_WELCOMELIST
        * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1%
        *      [score: 0.0000]
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4-_revision__1.0__ (2020-01-24) on

And here is a message from the exact same sender, with the same content, received today using welcomelist instead of whitelist:

Code:

X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham
        autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4-_revision__1.0__
X-Spam-Report: 
        * -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1%
        *      [score: 0.0000]
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4-_revision__1.0__ (2020-01-24) on

The conclusion is inescapable: welcomelist is NOT implemented yet in version 3.4.4 and the "DEPRECATED" notice is false.

I'll leave this open for a bit for more comments. Meanwhile, I'll put "whitelist" back so my SPAM gets trapped. Is there a spamassassin buglist somewhere (I'll look).

DG12 · 08-16-2021, 12:48 PM

I stumbled on this by accident.

I guess this (might) explain why -- suddenly -- people I know I have whitelisted and have received regular messages from suddenly contact me by phone and ask why I haven't responded to their emails!
:-(

PS I do not maintain my own spamassassin system, my hosting company, MidPhase does.