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I'm sure most people were not aware that a problem existed in India...........BUT, the biggest abusers of IP theft are N. Korea and China.........and U.N. is unable to help stop IP theft since it is run by thieves like "Kofi Anon" .......The United Nations can't be trusted to do the right thing...........just look at the "Oil for Food" and "Oil for Medicine" programs in Iraq........the U.N Tyrants got rich while the Iraqi people suffered.......
And that sort of thing is entrely off-topic. Let's all not hijack a perfectly legitimate post so we can go off on a tangent, hmm. Oil for Food has, as far as I know, nothing whatsoever to do with software pirates - I think it's more of an oil and food issue.
Originally posted by masand sure it benfits a lot that is the reason that it is on boom .
IT in the pride of India and envy of others
Well, speaking as an Indian, let's not exaggerate or unnecessarily wax poetic here...
Most of the "IT" industry is just routine coding, with little actual R&D. Sure, it's fetches some dough now, but in the long run, it's hardcore R&D that counts, and most of that's still being done in the west.
Also, the job security is very poor, as employees are not specialized enough to be expendable & so get laid off routinely.
Also, one must remember that all this 'piracy hotline' stuff is mainly a smokescreen to mask the cultural damp placed on opensource software by IT businesses that are frightened of the competition.
Originally posted by hari_seldon99 Well, speaking as an Indian, let's not exaggerate or unnecessarily wax poetic here...
Most of the "IT" industry is just routine coding, with little actual R&D. Sure, it's fetches some dough now, but in the long run, it's hardcore R&D that counts, and most of that's still being done in the west.
Also, the job security is very poor, as employees are not specialized enough to be expendable & so get laid off routinely.
Also, one must remember that all this 'piracy hotline' stuff is mainly a smokescreen to mask the cultural damp placed on opensource software by IT businesses that are frightened of the competition.
Originally posted by masand
and that piracy hotline is the first step
atleast the govt. has thought of implementing it
there is no such mechanism in place in all countries
and please this topic is regarding piracy hotline
so better we should not indulge in other discussions here
regards
Uh, yeah, if it's anything like the other 'hotlines' back home, then I'll believe it only if it fetches results. We all know how wonderfully competent, efficient and incorruptible the Desi lawmakers are, right ?
but instead of playing the blame game and blaming it on the lawmakers , as a general public it is our duty to bring awareness.
the govt. can only support us ,its our duty to make people aware of such things called piracy and make then aware of the disadvantages of piracy. this can be done when we tell them about other non-pirated options.
Originally posted by masand yeah we all know about that .
but instead of playing the blame game and blaming it on the lawmakers , as a general public it is our duty to bring awareness.
the govt. can only support us ,its our duty to make people aware of such things called piracy and make then aware of the disadvantages of piracy. this can be done when we tell them about other non-pirated options.
Looking at all these, I believe, Piracy cannot be stopped completely. It can be reduced to an extent that is negligible (i.e. somewhere unknowlingly going on..)
What we can do is promote the popularity of GNU/Linux, emphasizing the use of it, its benefits and functionality, security and above all the cost!....
At the same time, we should ensure, through a community like LQ, that each and every user finds a way out for their problems faced in GNU/Linux (if any)...
Instead of focussing more on reducing piracy, we can focus more on the use of GNU/Linux and its availability ubiquitous.
Toll free numbers do help, but I really dont know to what extent it has helped reducing piracy
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I had installed Redhat Linux 9.0 (just had begun to know abt GNU/linux) on atleast 8 computers (of my friends) and encouraged them to use it. Many of them now, don't use it because, we have subjects in our Final Year that are dominated by Microsoft Windows.
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Microsoft IIS Server configuration and set up...
However, I have not stopped using Redhat Linux and wud be upgrading to fedora core 4 soon!
I don't think piracy can even be made neglible, not without a police state, and I don't think India should want to go that route. That is at least if we are referring to general piracy. If we are only talking about businesses and corporations then there are probably things that can be done to limit the problems.
Ultimately though, as long as software is copyable it will be copied. And if you try to make it uncopyable with DRM and hardware then you are killing off any of the users rights to use things like GNU/linux as well. I think that is the wrong route to go.
Far better it is I think to work with this natural state of software and promote a different reasoning regarding software. Users of all kinds need to understand software cannot be developed without developers, and developers need to make money. But businesses who develop software need to understand that the idea of licensed copies is faulty at the core. Software is not a simple product, because unlike physical products it can be reproduced very cheaply. Encouraging those businesses that benefit most from software to support it, as well as end users to donate I think is the best route to go in the long run. The best way to encourage is to produce software that people like, and to listen to their desires for features, etc.
I think software should be incorporated into other industries that it benefits. For example the movie industry should pay for development of software that allows for special effects. This software should be freely available to everyone. The developers get paid because the industry that makes the $ from it is paying them directly, and regular people who just want to try out software but don't have the huge funds to purchase 3000$ copies of max or maya can do so.
This is beneficial to everyone, except the middle man. And we don't need these middle men nearly as much now. Yes retailers and publishers still have a small purpose in distributing media to those without internet connections, but we shouldn't confuse the importance of the software itself with the medium used to transfer it. We shouldn't prevent copying simply because some businesses could possibly make more money if there was not such a thing. Those businesses should not need to be so large if their purpose could otherwise be minor. Only in the "content industries" do people get big heads and start telling the customers how they should be getting their product.
Well, speaking as an Indian, let's not exaggerate or unnecessarily wax poetic here...
Most of the "IT" industry is just routine coding, with little actual R&D. Sure, it's fetches some dough now, but in the long run, it's hardcore R&D that counts, and most of that's still being done in the west.
Also, the job security is very poor, as employees are not specialized enough to be expendable & so get laid off routinely.
Also, one must remember that all this 'piracy hotline' stuff is mainly a smokescreen to mask the cultural damp placed on opensource software by IT businesses that are frightened of the competition.
I accept with your views hari. Getting into an IT company is more easy than trying to start writing a hello world program. THere is absolutely no sense in the hiring process. However, this is to stay. Ofcourse companies do not have any other cheap alternative to get things done. Even if there are some, they dont have enough man power.
Piracy hotline is just a waste of money. It is impossible to stop software piracy in a country of 1billion people...
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