Thanks, I'll take that into consideration in my next incarnation.

True enough but, the truth often is. Semi-literacy can be easily cured and laziness as well. I have little empathy for people who complain about using a terminal as it is rarely required on current systems unless a person is in a hurry.

I've read articles about younger people not being able to read cursive. The world is moving on and in the future I expect people who can do so will be a tiny minority.

I've used ed before. I find it easier than vi/vim, but I'm lazy, so I use nano.

Sorry.

“No!”. Become a vegetable farmer. It appears to make using Linux possible. Or a secretary, or retire from some public service unrelated to computers. All these people are happily using one distribution or another.

But I venture that they are reading stuff, sometimes.

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I'm not good at troubleshooting Windows because I've never used it in a non-managed environment. The OP hasn't used linux so he's not good at troubleshooting it.

No one can trouble shoot unless they are WILLING to make the effort to learn. If they feel it is difficult and not willing to tackle the challenge to learn something new that makes them a quitter and quitters never win!

Some serious truth to that, but some people should never START. For some people computer tech is not, and should never be, in their wheelhouse. I worked IT support for a hospital for eleven years. There were doctors who were computer literate, but more who were not. A doctor needs to count on things working and understand MEDICINE! They had people like ME to fix the computers, they needed to focus on fixing PEOPLE!

On the other hand, someone who has no business troubleshooting a computer, operating system, or network needs to have someone local they can call on to do that for them so they CAN focus on what is more important to them! Some people come to LQ for help with that, others just come to LQ to complain.

We help those we can, but it is not realistic to expect them to BECOME us!

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younger people not being able to read cursive << not able to read and write.

The world has changed a lot, younger people don't care how things work in the background. They just need the final result.

As many of those concerned consider distribution-hopping a possible alternative to having to do something, I suggest they all try Mint, the distribution for those who have no friends.

Seriously. The phenomenon that you try to engage your brains on, is not limited to IT. “Tell me what I have to believe” or rather “Tell me what I shall consider the truth”, is the main discourse of people who are nowadays confronted to obstacles or just the need to change a point of view.

If it does not work out this way, then I am feeling bad and need to accuse something.

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Comfortable childishness is not reseved for youngsters. “You lie” – “No. It may just be incorrect. Do better.”

I wrote “infantility“, but to my surprise, you do not use this word.

That is not limited to young people, but someone need to 'know how things work' or a new 'thing' can not be recreated when the current 'thing' fails.

The OP has some strange comments and complaints but and states he wants to do something and he doesn't have the time to learn. Good luck with that. To his credit, he does admit (quote below from his only post) that he is simply venting and likley never viewed the post in the thread since writing the original post.

After the recent debacle involving the xv source tarball back-door I no longer recommend any SYSTEMD based distribution. The exploit library was only ever included in SSHD as a kludge to support SYSTEMD, it was designed to require SYSTEMD to enable to back door and then only if secure SSHD based remote access was enabled. All of the distributions that use SYSTEMD now become suspect, because this may not be the ONLY such exploit, it is just the only one we FOUND!

Thank goodness for the excellent distributions that are sysv-init, runit, etc based and avoid SYSTEMD! I am having a longer and more thoughtful look at those these days.

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Yes, indeed if someone is not willing to troubleshoot when things go south will have a thousands of excuses. As odds say, if there's a will there's a way.
Terminal is awesome, that's why the MS side has so called "Server Core".

I thought it dangerous when it was first introduced, hooking into everything - I've had nothing to do with it, (not even on my RPi, where I tended to use Devuan).

(Also my reason for getting more skilled using the BSDs, especially Net & Open.)

Chatbot-generated Bullshit that arrives via VPN-servers “abroad” (“abroad” may be a word you should look up). The errors committed and the attitude to condemn is preceding the mess that you complain about. You will be a victim, too, if you use whatever software you like or the others. I am off this thread, anyway.

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