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Old 03-07-2024, 11:38 AM   #1
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Post Would like to make a mailing list through FOSS platforms


Hi there,

I'm reaching out because I'm interested in creating an email list for an upcoming project and would like to explore using an open-source platform to do so. Ideally, I'd like to display a waiting list form directly on my website.

I came across Mailman and was wondering if it could help me achieve this goal.

Here's a breakdown of what I'm looking for:

1. Open-source platform: I'm looking for a free and accessible solution.
2. Waiting list form: I need a form on my website where visitors can sign up for the email list.
3. Project updates: I plan to use the list to send updates and information about my upcoming project.
 
Old 03-07-2024, 11:52 AM   #2
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Hi there,
I'm reaching out because I'm interested in creating an email list for an upcoming project and would like to explore using an open-source platform to do so. Ideally, I'd like to display a waiting list form directly on my website. I came across Mailman and was wondering if it could help me achieve this goal.

Here's a breakdown of what I'm looking for:

1. Open-source platform: I'm looking for a free and accessible solution.
2. Waiting list form: I need a form on my website where visitors can sign up for the email list.
3. Project updates: I plan to use the list to send updates and information about my upcoming project.
Ok...so:
  1. You're using Linux, which is free and accessible
  2. You've asked about PHP mailer forms in the past; this indicates you know you can put a form on a page.
  3. Write some code to send out updates to the people on your mailing list
Not sure what you're asking for here, as everything is fairly nebulous. And what you're describing sounds like everything that WordPress can already do.
 
Old 03-07-2024, 02:11 PM   #3
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Mailman is indeed a mailing list manager. In addition it provides a web interface for users to manage their subscriptions (subscribe/unsubscribe, etc) and for list owners to manage their lists.

One caveat: Out of the box, it’s configured to send a confirmation email to subscribe requests. If a bad actor (read a**hole) submits a request using an invalid (or someone else’s) email address, and the recipient or receiving email server regards these unsolicited confirmation emails as spam, the hosting server can and will be blacklisted…been there done that.

It took me a couple of weeks after reconfiguring mailman and my email service to get mail from my server accepted by gmail and aol/yahoo again. Fortunately, it didn’t get blocklisted, but not being able to send mail to gmail is a significant impediment to providing email services. Also fortunately, this occurred just after I had moved all the paying customers to other providers because I have retired from that business, so the impact was to family accounts only.

So don’t leave the configuration set up like that. Instead, configure to have a moderator (you?) notified that a subscription request has been received. The moderator can then choose whether or not to send a confirmation in response to the request.

It is also possible to not allow individuals to manage their own subscriptions.

Last edited by scasey; 03-07-2024 at 02:13 PM.
 
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Old 03-07-2024, 03:19 PM   #4
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Every once in a while I look to Turnkey linux. They have ideas for this sort of thing.
 
Old 03-08-2024, 12:43 AM   #5
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Mailman is indeed a mailing list manager. In addition it provides a web interface for users to manage their subscriptions (subscribe/unsubscribe, etc) and for list owners to manage their lists.

One caveat: Out of the box, it’s configured to send a confirmation email to subscribe requests. If a bad actor (read a**hole) submits a request using an invalid (or someone else’s) email address, and the recipient or receiving email server regards these unsolicited confirmation emails as spam, the hosting server can and will be blacklisted…been there done that.

It took me a couple of weeks after reconfiguring mailman and my email service to get mail from my server accepted by gmail and aol/yahoo again. Fortunately, it didn’t get blocklisted, but not being able to send mail to gmail is a significant impediment to providing email services. Also fortunately, this occurred just after I had moved all the paying customers to other providers because I have retired from that business, so the impact was to family accounts only.

So don’t leave the configuration set up like that. Instead, configure to have a moderator (you?) notified that a subscription request has been received. The moderator can then choose whether or not to send a confirmation in response to the request.

It is also possible to not allow individuals to manage their own subscriptions.
Okay let me check and i aim to collect mailing lists from primary domain is about business developed from Html and java and sub domain contains a content from wordpress.
 
Old 03-08-2024, 06:26 AM   #6
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1. Open-source platform: I'm looking for a free and accessible solution.
Look here:
free mailing lists (any software, but most services are European, Sympa dominates)

Edit: I notice that some of those “kittens” demand a membership in their association. This does not imply money, but I have not filtered the list in this respect. My own hosting-association “infini” is included, but I pay a yearly contribution of 30€ for all mail- and web-hosting (of arbitrary scale).

framagroupes.org (mind the ‘e’) appears to offer totally “free” list-hosting. This is only the first one that I have checked. Others will do the same.

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2. Waiting list form: I need a form on my website where visitors can sign up for the email list.
Direct your visitors to the inscription page, provided by the mailing-list. You do not need a form, it is already provided by Mailman, Sympa or AlternC.
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3. Project updates: I plan to use the list to send updates and information about my upcoming project.
If you want a newsletter, configure the list for that. Then do as you please.

Last edited by Michael Uplawski; 03-08-2024 at 06:38 AM. Reason: Slash, Kraut2English, free and free or just free.
 
Old 03-08-2024, 09:30 AM   #7
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Ahh. In my haste to inform about the “security hole” in mailman out-of-the-box, I neglected to notice the “newsletter” aspect of the OP. Yes. mailman can be configured to be “one way,” so that members only receive posts, but aren’t allowed to post themselves.
 
Old 03-08-2024, 10:41 AM   #8
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@OP

You can try Dada Mail
 
Old 03-08-2024, 11:51 PM   #9
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Ahh. In my haste to inform about the “security hole” in mailman out-of-the-box, I neglected to notice the “newsletter” aspect of the OP. Yes. mailman can be configured to be “one way,” so that members only receive posts, but aren’t allowed to post themselves.
If you use the mail-interface, Mailman and Sympa do not differ significantly, but when you compare the Web-interfaces, mailman looks antiquated and is less intuitive than Sympa. I have not had use for the storage options but in some working environments it can be cool to give only references in the mail and to store actual files on the server, accessible only to the list-subscribers.
 
Old 03-10-2024, 08:15 AM   #10
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Ahh. In my haste to inform about the “security hole” in mailman out-of-the-box, I neglected to notice the “newsletter” aspect of the OP. Yes. mailman can be configured to be “one way,” so that members only receive posts, but aren’t allowed to post themselves.
Yes, indeed. I aim for my subscribers to receive just one newsletter.
 
Old 03-10-2024, 08:19 AM   #11
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If you use the mail-interface, Mailman and Sympa do not differ significantly, but when you compare the Web-interfaces, mailman looks antiquated and is less intuitive than Sympa. I have not had use for the storage options but in some working environments it can be cool to give only references in the mail and to store actual files on the server, accessible only to the list-subscribers.
I host my website using cPanel, which includes Mailman integrated by default. My question is, how can I set up a form on my website for visitors to subscribe to my cPanel mailing list? Would I need to write code and integrate it with a link related to Mailman in cPanel to accomplish this?
 
Old 03-10-2024, 08:20 AM   #12
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Mailman is indeed a mailing list manager. In addition it provides a web interface for users to manage their subscriptions (subscribe/unsubscribe, etc) and for list owners to manage their lists.

One caveat: Out of the box, it’s configured to send a confirmation email to subscribe requests. If a bad actor (read a**hole) submits a request using an invalid (or someone else’s) email address, and the recipient or receiving email server regards these unsolicited confirmation emails as spam, the hosting server can and will be blacklisted…been there done that.

It took me a couple of weeks after reconfiguring mailman and my email service to get mail from my server accepted by gmail and aol/yahoo again. Fortunately, it didn’t get blocklisted, but not being able to send mail to gmail is a significant impediment to providing email services. Also fortunately, this occurred just after I had moved all the paying customers to other providers because I have retired from that business, so the impact was to family accounts only.

So don’t leave the configuration set up like that. Instead, configure to have a moderator (you?) notified that a subscription request has been received. The moderator can then choose whether or not to send a confirmation in response to the request.

It is also possible to not allow individuals to manage their own subscriptions.
I host my website using cPanel, which includes Mailman integrated by default. My question is, how can I set up a form on my website for visitors to subscribe to my cPanel mailing list? Would I need to write code and integrate it with a link related to Mailman in cPanel to accomplish this?
 
Old 03-10-2024, 08:20 AM   #13
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@OP

You can try Dada Mail
Will check it.
 
Old 03-10-2024, 08:21 AM   #14
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Every once in a while I look to Turnkey linux. They have ideas for this sort of thing.
First time, i am hearing this Linux.
 
Old 03-10-2024, 02:57 PM   #15
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I host my website using cPanel, which includes Mailman integrated by default. My question is, how can I set up a form on my website for visitors to subscribe to my cPanel mailing list? Would I need to write code and integrate it with a link related to Mailman in cPanel to accomplish this?
Every mailing list, which is managed by mailman, has a list information page on the hosting server. That is all that is needed to guide your future subscribers.
You only need 1 link to refer them on that page. If you are decided to use the existing mailman instance anyway, I suppose you should read the administration- and the user manuals for mailman

https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20...ators%20Manual
https://wiki.list.org/DOC/Mailman%20...mbers%20Manual
 
  


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