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Old 01-31-2003, 07:33 AM   #1
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Windows partition


hello
im a complete linux newbie
i installed redhat 8.0
where could i enter the windows partition?
i had mandrake 8.2 once,and i knew where to access there(cant remember)
thanks
also another
i had to reinstall windows xp,cause it was acting up
but linux booter(grum or similar) disappeared
i ran linux install,selected upgrade,and changed boot
but it said i have to install new kernel
then i selected all in the kernel package
now at boot it says linux bigmem and smp,and windows
which should i use?
can i delete,so only one should remain?
if yes,where,and which do i have to delete and which to edit
thanks
also,what windows partition question was asked few times im sure,but i couldnt find at search(toomany results),so sorry
 
Old 01-31-2003, 08:21 AM   #2
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The reason that the grub boot loader disappeared is because Windows writes over the Master Boot Record (MBR) which is where grub was prolly located, to prevent this always install windows before installing linux.

I don't know why the boot loader is offering bigmem or smp kernels unless you have 4GB+ ram i think it is for bigmem, or a dual processor system for SMP (Symetric Multi Processing).

Never the less i beleive either should boot with out problems.

As for the Windows partition, I assume that you are trying to view it from RH, if the partition is formatted NTFS read only is all that is supported, but FAT32 is supported read/write to my knowlegde.

While it is possible to clean up the install of RH you have, it will probably be easier to reinstall RedHat unless someone more knowledgeable can give you instructions on how to clean what you have up.

What I would do is this:

1. Back up important data, always a good idea esp. when trying something new
2. Reinstall Redhat, when asked about partitioning use disk druid one of the partitions listed should say NTFS, or FAT32 assuming that you have 3 partitions 1 win, 1 linux, 1 swap

they should be named something like hda1,hda2, hda3. hda means hard disk a basicly the first hard disk on the system this would be the disk with the C partition under windows, the 1-3 refers to the partition number is you have windows installed first chances are that hda1 is the windows partition. click on it and select edit from disk druid
if it is the windows partition it will say something like vfat (it will have fat there somewhere) if you see fat there DO NOT format it that WILL blow Windows away.
At the top of the dialog box it should have an option to add a mount point in the text field type /windows or what ever you want to call it. with my example it will create a directory under root called windows.

REMEMBER: Linux is case sensitive, Linux is not linux is not LiNuX. Linux will see these as all being different

Hopefully this information will be helpful to you. I'm a newbie too but have installed various Linux Distros before including RH 7.1 7.3 and RH 8.0

Goodluck

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Old 01-31-2003, 08:35 AM   #3
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i use win xp,ntfs
at redhat.com i searched,and found mounting
but it says for windows 98
i got automount in fstab
tried manual mount with disk manager and with terminal
but it says couldnt mound:because from fs,......,too many mounted drives
any ideea?
 
Old 01-31-2003, 08:41 AM   #4
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i just edited the end of my last post
 
Old 01-31-2003, 08:44 AM   #5
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when you tried to mount the drive did you first create a directory to mount too?

try mk /windows

then issuse the mount command and give /windows as the mount point
 
Old 01-31-2003, 08:45 AM   #6
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yes,i created /mnt/windows
its there,but empty
 
Old 01-31-2003, 08:53 AM   #7
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sorry i'm out of ideas and i'm under xp right now, i see that you are currently looking at this thread

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...threadid=43497

ask masterc from what i see he/she knows what they are talking about and is more that willing to help

again goodluck
 
Old 01-31-2003, 08:56 AM   #8
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read my last post
maybe thats the problem
cause vfat != ntfs
i will try that command by manub,maybe that will work
thanks for your help
take care
 
Old 01-31-2003, 09:13 AM   #9
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MasterC = Glorified Newbie

Thanks for the compilment though. In this case I'd suggest using the command:
fdisk -l
This will only show information, no worries it will do anything to your disk. Note the type of partition your win is. Whether it's ntfs or vfat (fat32).

Then mount the device with:
mount -t FILESYSTEM /dev/hdX /mnt/wherever

Where filesystem is the type you find from fdisk -l.

As for the rest of your questions:
SMP is multi processor. So if you have that, then choose that boot option.
BigMEM is exactly that, more than about a Gig of mem OR 4GB or more. If you have less than a GIG, choose the regular "linux" entry.

You can remove the other entries, you first need to figure out which boot loader you are using, then edit the corresponding config file. First up, is this Redhat or Mandrake? This will really help us to determine which boot loader you are using; your question kind of confuses me as to which one you are currently using.
Guessing it's Redhat 8.0 your boot loader will most likely be Grub. So edit grub.conf But, I'd suggest posting up your grub.conf so someone can assist you. You don't wanna delete too much, otherwise your system won't boot!

Cool
 
Old 01-31-2003, 09:23 AM   #10
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okay
i tried mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
and it says: unkown fs ntfs
same at start
i use /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows ntfs auto,owner,users 0 0 in fstab
says same thing there
i know its hda1,cause at start it says: hda: Maxtor blabla
and its #1,cause its the first partition
any ideeas?
 
Old 01-31-2003, 09:51 AM   #11
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i tried fdisk -l,and for /dev/hda1 it says HTFS/NTFS or similar
i tried mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
i got /mnt/windows,its empty
that says fs ntfs is not supported by kernel
i use kernel version 2.4.18-14
is that the prob?

edit:
okay,i noticed its maybe because that
if i install 2.4.18-19,will it have ntfs support?
thanks

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Old 01-31-2003, 10:24 AM   #12
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Well you've actually got to install the drivers for Redhat, they didn't include them in their kernels. Go to this page, and follow the directions for that:
http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/redhat.html

Cool
 
Old 01-31-2003, 10:29 AM   #13
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LIAR! MasterC is not a glorified newbie he's just being humble

the smp and big mem options are just there because your distro, redhat, puts them there in all installs so people with lots of RAM or 2 processors can use it out of the box. just ignore them.

You don't have ntfs support in your kernel, that means you get to rebuild it before you can read the windows drive See www.tldp.org or search here for "kernel compile" for info on how to do that. I belive our "glorified newbie" here posted some excellent info on how to select ntfs during the kernel compile in another thread.

if grub disappeared, check the "NT OS Loader + Linux mini-HOWTO" at tldp.org for how to set it up so you can have linux as one of the options in the XP boot menu, that is the method I use though I don't boot windows much anymore.
 
Old 01-31-2003, 10:33 AM   #14
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wow!
thanks
im downloading thenew kernel anyway too
thanks again
hope this will work

edit:
thanks,it works

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Old 04-25-2004, 12:49 AM   #15
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hello

i need help .. where can i find the drivers for red hat 9 to mount hdd fat32 system .. please help me
 
  


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