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I'm not actually that newbie,I already experienced Kali linux, Ubuntu and Slackware, but the last one was to much hands on to me. I don't want something simple like Ubunt, but nothing that slack, like slackware. My interests are programing, using matlab, learn the basic of script and general linux programing, run windows aplications, develop for linux windows and android. I really get into something challenger, but also smart, Wich could recognize my cards and install drivers. Something advanced wich i would personalize, and something wich would make me learn, but please, no slackware! Maybe someday, but not this time.
Another thing. KDE or GNOME environment
Please, be reliable and honest as such is possible and I'll have no words to thanks. I really want to get into linux in first category. If I would to use a slogan to my life I'd say:
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"Not the hard or easy way, not the curved path or the straight line, the smarter choice!
Why to go in the full way when I can get a shortcut? The answer: Will I learn with it, learn enogh to take a shortcut in the future? What is gain and when the questions will stop? Will they stop if i choose the shortcut?
If a have to make something, let's do it in the easy way, no need to reinvent anytihng.
The only thing that I don't want is to be alone. This doesn't mean to be without anyone to talk or help, however it also makes part, besides what really minds is to have someone else with information; the only thing that can go faster than light, the only thing that can make the world make sense; to share with you and to share for us. Just like univeverse couldn't make sense with only two electrons, it also could'nt make sense without people and coletive learning, for us, by us, through us... "
That was to much, but now you must now what I want.
Debian maybe? It's rock-solid stable, like Slackware.
I'd suggest you load up a few distros in VirtualBox or try a few Live CDs and see what strikes your fancy. I would recommend sticking to what I must call for lack of a better term mainstream distros, such as Mageia, OpenSuse, or Debian. Mint is also a very nice distro; it's easily the best of the Ubuntu derivatives. You might also take a look at Scientific Linux; it's a derivative of RHEL with RHEL's stability but designed more with desktop use in mind.
As an aside, any distro can be as hands-on as you want it to be. Use the command line instead of GUI utilities for configuration and even Ubuntu can be hands-on.
Debian maybe? It's rock-solid stable, like Slackware.
I'd suggest you load up a few distros in VirtualBox or try a few Live CDs and see what strikes your fancy. I would recommend sticking to what I must call for lack of a better term mainstream distros, such as Mageia, OpenSuse, or Debian. Mint is also a very nice distro; it's easily the best of the Ubuntu derivatives. You might also take a look at Scientific Linux; it's a derivative of RHEL with RHEL's stability but designed more with desktop use in mind.
As an aside, any distro can be as hands-on as you want it to be. Use the command line instead of GUI utilities for configuration and even Ubuntu can be hands-on.
I totally agree with you man, "every distro can be hads on", but distros like slackware forces you to use termianl, after all who would use terminal do do thinks that can be done with one click? With less hands one I meant something in the midle. Good sugestion anyway! I'll take a look at the Scientific linux, it seems to be very interesting. I also will try a openSuse building my own with suse studio. Thanks for your reply.
after all who would use terminal do do thinks that can be done with one click
Slackers.
I learned Linux on Slackware; it was an accident (the first thing I tried to install I forget what it was didn't install, but Slackware did), but a happy one. Once you understand Slackware, no other distro can intimidate you, because Slackware teaches you how to figure stuff out.
Back in my DOS days, I learned that the command line is always faster than the GUI, if you know the commands.
I learned Linux on Slackware; it was an accident (the first thing I tried to install I forget what it was didn't install, but Slackware did), but a happy one. Once you understand Slackware, no other distro can intimidate you, because Slackware teaches you how to figure stuff out.
Back in my DOS days, I learned that the command line is always faster than the GUI, if you know the commands.
Glad I could help. Let us know where you end up.
"Once you Slack you never go back"
I can't corrupt this words. My first intention instaling slack really was to understand linux in the hard way. And I agree with you when you say that is better and faster to use the command line. I was undiced but now I'm really about to try one more time, then I'll need help to do things right this time. Can I count on you?
I was undiced but now I'm really about to try one more time, then I'll need help to do things right this time. Can I count on you?
The good news is we have a Forum for a lot of the distributions so help and support is available.
I've been coming here for about 5 years now and the one thing I've seen is consistent support and dedication.
Afterall; MattFly providing people with support with Linux it's what we do here at LQ.-
I've been running CentOS 7 for a while now and it's been very stable. https://www.centos.org/
I'm not actually that newbie,I already experienced Kali linux, Ubuntu and Slackware, but the last one was to much hands on to me. I don't want something simple like Ubunt, but nothing that slack, like slackware. My interests are programing, using matlab, learn the basic of script and general linux programing, run windows aplications, develop for linux windows and android. I really get into something challenger, but also smart, Wich could recognize my cards and install drivers. Something advanced wich i would personalize, and something wich would make me learn, but please, no slackware! Maybe someday, but not this time.
Another thing. KDE or GNOME environment
Please, be reliable and honest as such is possible and I'll have no words to thanks. I really want to get into linux in first category. If I would to use a slogan to my life I'd say:
That was to much, but now you must now what I want.
Fedora has been great for me. Most of the things I learned about in Linux I learned in Fedora. It's butter smooth with the GNOME desktop, and in a lot of areas has better support than Ubuntu. I will say that it is difficult to upgrade, and for things like setting up servers you will have your nose in a terminal.
By all means, check it out. If you want to learn Linux but not be thrown in it head first, give this a try.
It's also good for gaming because of the kernel and Mesa.
Ah, come on - he wants to program => will need to switch instantly between different main SW-releases (e.g. python 2.7/3.3/3.4 or wxwidgets or java, or gcc, etc...) => Gentoo accomplishes that immediately with e.g. "eselect wxwidgets list" + eselect wxwidgets set 2" (to select the 2nd entry that you see on the list).
Ah, come on - he wants to program => will need to switch instantly between different main SW-releases (e.g. python 2.7/3.3/3.4 or wxwidgets or java, or gcc, etc...) => Gentoo accomplishes that immediately with e.g. "eselect wxwidgets list" + eselect wxwidgets set 2" (to select the 2nd entry that you see on the list).
Or...he could use VMs. Or Koding.com. Or compile different versions of python in his home folder. Or something else that he comes up with. Gentoo might require a lot to get going, more than Slack. Fedora gets you up and running quickly with minimal configuration.
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the host you mentioned: sounds quite suspicious when reading "Develop in Go, Python, Node, Ruby, PHP ...blahblahblah... ALL FOR FREE", no?
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Or...he could use VMs
Only for the final acceptance testing, otherwise an eeeeeextreeeeeeemely slooooooow process to develop and/or run your own tests.
Example:
you're e.g. writing an app NOW and you get an error and you want to see if you have the same problem with a main minor/major version of the framework (e.g. python/php/gcc) => with e.g. "eselect php set cli 4" (assuming that you're developing PHP in Command LIne you make the version #4 active that you see with "eselect php list cli") you're NOW on that other version - not after having booted some other VM (that needs to be installed) and having transferred your code to it and having opened a remote terminal to run your code.
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