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Originally posted by Thymox In the end I found it easier to say I had a Apple and I wanted to connect my xbox to the Internet as well without my Apple being turned on... that buggared them!
Dude, so that's like saying that there's a Democratic George Bush as the US's president. People who own an apple system simply don't own an x-box. They either own a PS2, Gamecube, or both....
Erm, is it. OK. I am sorry to say that I don't follow American politics - we have enough fun with our own politicians here in the UK.
My point was that the "support" people at most British ISPs don't have a clue what Linux is. Since almost all of them offered the Frog as their 'free modem' and they blatently advertise that "Broadband is not available for Apple computers" I found it easier to explain to them that I was the owner of an Apple PC, I had no intention of paying for a Windows PC, and I wanted to connect my games console to the Internet aswell... what can you offer me? Rather than trying to explain what Linux is and how I would prefer to use an ethernet modem so that I can connect it to a dedicated firewall running Linux as well with the intention of hosting my own site.
Before I had the idea of using the Mac as a premise for "alternative solutions" I even had the good fortune to speak with someone at Freeserve who said that it was company advice to disable any kind of firewall. He obviously thought that I was talking about the so-called firewalling software like Norton Personal. I really didn't want to explain to him the difference between a software firewall, a "dedicated" hardware firewall and a PC running Linux could be a dedicated hardware firewall even though it runs software. I did, however, ask him whether it was company policy to ensure that all their customers are up-to-speed with all the latest virus updates and security patches since they would not support anything other than Microsoft Windows and they are advocating running such a virus-prone, flaky piece of software with high-speed access to the Internet with no protection what so ever. Needless to say he declined to say where the company stood on these grounds. Hehe.
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Before I had the idea of using the Mac as a premise for "alternative solutions" I even had the good fortune to speak with someone at Freeserve who said that it was company advice to disable any kind of firewall. He obviously thought that I was talking about the so-called firewalling software like Norton Personal. I really didn't want to explain to him the difference between a software firewall, a "dedicated" hardware firewall and a PC running Linux could be a dedicated hardware firewall even though it runs software. I did, however, ask him whether it was company policy to ensure that all their customers are up-to-speed with all the latest virus updates and security patches since they would not support anything other than Microsoft Windows and they are advocating running such a virus-prone, flaky piece of software with high-speed access to the Internet with no protection what so ever. Needless to say he declined to say where the company stood on these grounds. Hehe.
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Isn't it sad how often it becomes necessary to utterly TRICK idiot support putzes at some ISPs into, oh, I dunno do their damn jobs! And to think that their service would actually benefit from happy users going on-line unexposed to the BS that doz may unnecessarily allow!
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