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Old 01-25-2024, 09:16 PM   #1
Gregg Bell
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What is this Ubuntu Pro popup I keep getting?


I'm running Xubuntu 22.O4 LTS and I keep getting this popup and I don't know what it is or what it does. Anybody know? Thanks.
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Old 01-25-2024, 09:20 PM   #2
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This should help.

https://www.howtogeek.com/902519/what-is-ubuntu-pro/

I do not consider this a positive step on the part of Canonical, but that's just me.

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Old 01-25-2024, 09:20 PM   #3
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It seems to me like you need an update and to enable Ubuntu Pro. Have you tried updating or enabling Ubuntu Pro? X E.
 
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Old 01-26-2024, 06:02 AM   #4
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I'm afraid Canonical are big into this. This is what I see when I log into one of the Azure VMs I look after:

Code:
Welcome to Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.15.0-1053-azure x86_64)

 * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com
 * Management:     https://landscape.canonical.com
 * Support:        https://ubuntu.com/advantage

  System information as of Fri Jan 26 12:01:14 UTC 2024

  System load:  0.14               Processes:             119
  Usage of /:   3.7% of 496.03GB   Users logged in:       0
  Memory usage: 7%                 IPv4 address for eth0: 10.36.36.4
  Swap usage:   0%

 * Strictly confined Kubernetes makes edge and IoT secure. Learn how MicroK8s
   just raised the bar for easy, resilient and secure K8s cluster deployment.

   https://ubuntu.com/engage/secure-kubernetes-at-the-edge

Expanded Security Maintenance for Applications is not enabled.

30 updates can be applied immediately.
17 of these updates are standard security updates.
To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable

1 additional security update can be applied with ESM Apps.
Learn more about enabling ESM Apps service at https://ubuntu.com/esm

New release '22.04.3 LTS' available.
Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
"Expanded Security Maintenance for Applications" is an Ubuntu Pro feature. It's essentially about charging for updates (or trying to), but mainly targets bigger organisations Smaller users can get it for free (for now).

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Old 01-26-2024, 06:44 AM   #5
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The Ubuntu site at the link below explains in detail. Free for personal use for up to 5 computers (for now?) I don't know why you would be getting frequent pop ups unless Ubuntu has begun pushing it more. I have an install of Ubuntu 20.04 and have never seen such a pop up. It is primarily for security updates and support.

https://ubuntu.com/pro

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Old 01-26-2024, 02:15 PM   #6
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This should help.

https://www.howtogeek.com/902519/what-is-ubuntu-pro/

I do not consider this a positive step on the part of Canonical, but that's just me.
Hi Frank. Good to see you. Yeah, that link helped a lot. Thanks.
 
Old 01-26-2024, 02:17 PM   #7
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It seems to me like you need an update and to enable Ubuntu Pro. Have you tried updating or enabling Ubuntu Pro? X E.
No I have not updated or enabled Ubuntu Pro. Wanted to see what you guys had to say about it first.
 
Old 01-26-2024, 02:20 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by _blackhole_ View Post
I'm afraid Canonical are big into this. This is what I see when I log into one of the Azure VMs I look after:

Code:
Welcome to Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS (GNU/Linux 5.15.0-1053-azure x86_64)

 * Documentation:  https://help.ubuntu.com
 * Management:     https://landscape.canonical.com
 * Support:        https://ubuntu.com/advantage

  System information as of Fri Jan 26 12:01:14 UTC 2024

  System load:  0.14               Processes:             119
  Usage of /:   3.7% of 496.03GB   Users logged in:       0
  Memory usage: 7%                 IPv4 address for eth0: 10.36.36.4
  Swap usage:   0%

 * Strictly confined Kubernetes makes edge and IoT secure. Learn how MicroK8s
   just raised the bar for easy, resilient and secure K8s cluster deployment.

   https://ubuntu.com/engage/secure-kubernetes-at-the-edge

Expanded Security Maintenance for Applications is not enabled.

30 updates can be applied immediately.
17 of these updates are standard security updates.
To see these additional updates run: apt list --upgradable

1 additional security update can be applied with ESM Apps.
Learn more about enabling ESM Apps service at https://ubuntu.com/esm

New release '22.04.3 LTS' available.
Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
"Expanded Security Maintenance for Applications" is an Ubuntu Pro feature. It's essentially about charging for updates (or trying to), but mainly targets bigger organisations Smaller users can get it for free (for now).
Thanks. Looks complicated (for somebody like me anyway).
 
Old 01-26-2024, 02:21 PM   #9
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The Ubuntu site at the link below explains in detail. Free for personal use for up to 5 computers (for now?) I don't know why you would be getting frequent pop ups unless Ubuntu has begun pushing it more. I have an install of Ubuntu 20.04 and have never seen such a pop up. It is primarily for security updates and support.
Thanks yancek. But do you think it's worth getting?
 
Old 01-26-2024, 02:22 PM   #10
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Has anybody here actually gotten the Ubuntu Pro?
 
Old 01-26-2024, 02:24 PM   #11
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It's not complicated and it isn't some nefarious method to screw you over.

The only thing pro does is give you security updates for stuff not in the main repository that normally didn't get updates from Canonical. If you don't get pro you don't lose anything. It's free for 5 computers so it's almost dumb not to use it if you are sticking with a specific lts release for a long duration > 5 years.

You aren't losing anything without it. Only have updates to gain.

*EDIT* It is not the same thing as Ubuntu Pro with live support which is paid from the start.

For what it's worth I see it as their attempt at moving toward how RHEL works, minus the fact that the code for the distro is still accessible to whoever wants it without a hindrance.
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Old 01-26-2024, 02:28 PM   #12
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This should help.

https://www.howtogeek.com/902519/what-is-ubuntu-pro/

I do not consider this a positive step on the part of Canonical, but that's just me.
Why do you consider it not to be a positive step? It's 10 years of security. Do you think it would be good for somebody (non-techie) like me? If I don't get it, every LTS release will still have security, right?
 
Old 01-26-2024, 04:19 PM   #13
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Forgot the link in my previous post. I got it a few weeks ago as it only gives security updates for an additional time. The primary reason for it is for enterprise and business and I doubt you get any or many of the other options such as support on a personal use machine. Don't Lubuntu and Xubuntu have only 3 years support with an LTS? Be worth it in that case. If you do regular updates and use only LTS current releases, not much point.
 
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Old 01-26-2024, 04:32 PM   #14
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I knew they were doing that with APT, but didn't know they'd put it into the GUI tools too! Back when they first put a similar message during apt updates, there was outcry about ubuntu adding advertisements to apt, which was a while back...

They certainly want people to register with them tho. It gets you security/bugfix updates on universe/multiverse repos, and on main repo after 5-year standard support stops (until 10 years). Obviously there must be some privacy implications, at a minimum they get your email or whatever it takes to register (I forgot) but it is free for up to five machines for home users. (I've done it on my Bodhi 5.1 machine which is based on ubuntu 18.04).

This is yet another reason people who know how to configure their own stuff may want to consider switching to pure debian tho, but there is no 10 year support option from them at all.

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Old 01-26-2024, 05:08 PM   #15
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Has anybody here actually gotten the Ubuntu Pro?
Not here. The normal LTS time frame (5 years) is enough for me. I'll just upgrade to the next LTS version when the time comes. Plus in five years the hardware will probably need upgraded anyway which is a good time to load the latest LTS version.

Quote:
every LTS release will still have security, right?
Yes.

Note: I'll move to another distro if I am ever forced to 'register' before running a distro... One of the reasons I won't use M$ stuff.

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