LinuxQuestions.org
Share your knowledge at the LQ Wiki.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 08-17-2012, 02:42 PM   #1
punchy71
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2011
Posts: 160

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Newbie looking for some suggestions and direction


Hi to all,
I have at long last made the permanent switch to 'nix operating systems (Linux and BSD) after many years of using Microsoft Windows. I contracted a virus on my Windows machine for the last time after clicking on a picture in my Firefox browser. It hosed my entire system so I am through with Windows for good.
So now I'm looking for suggestions for a Linux or BSD distro that this will not happen to. Thus it must be a SECURE AND STABLE distro (no flaky error messages or crashes either). I am wanting to make the permanent switch to a text-only X windowing desktop environment of some kind as I know there are several out there to choose from. Also I'm wanting to switch to text-only web browsers and e-mail programs too. Basically as many text-only applications as possible, but I mostly use the computer for browsing the internet, sending e-mails and watching videos.

Thanks for any suggestions
 
Old 08-17-2012, 03:11 PM   #2
sKaar
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: dartmouth, nova scotia
Distribution: slackware 12.1
Posts: 74

Rep: Reputation: 2
nearly any linux system, if you don't change it all the time, merely keeping up with stable versions at least a few months old, and stable update packages, you'll be ok. personally, i installed slackware 12.1 a while after it came out, keeping up with security updates, it's been stable, and except for power issues, it's been 24/7 since installed. some distros might take a bit of time to get stable packages uploaded, otherwise all should work fine.
 
Old 08-17-2012, 03:14 PM   #3
rayfward
Member
 
Registered: May 2009
Location: Leeds Uk
Distribution: Linux Mint 18
Posts: 109

Rep: Reputation: 12
Well it's unlikely that a windows virus will run on a Linux machine. When I first moved over to Linux a pop-up message appeared "You have 24 Viruses on your drive C" was a bit disconcerting when there is no drive C. Linux Graphical environment is fairly bullet proof from internet invaders and as long as you use a proper user name (Not root) as your login the chances that you have your machine hosed are slim to non. I have been a Linux user for 7 years and not had any incidents worth mentioning and I have kept all my precious data. There are free AV packages if you still want to be sure. Clam AV only ever complains about some of the files I kept from my windows days that did have dodgy bits of malware embedded in them but non have escaped into my machine. I'm not familiar with Nix but if you look in the package manager what ever yours is you should find a text based browser.
I’m sure there will be plenty who will disagree with me on this but the most stable distributions with probably the lowest whoops count will be Ubuntu. But there is plenty to knock your self out with. If you want to try there are plenty of Live distributions CD/DVD out there. Most magazines carry 2 or more on a cover DVD. Good luck and welcome to the family. I recently converted a mates machine. Not having looked a private windows machine for a long time I was appalled at the amount of c**p that still gets installed under windows. Fixed that for him.

Regards
Ray
 
Old 08-17-2012, 03:24 PM   #4
Didier Spaier
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slint64-14.2 on Lenovo Thinkpad W520
Posts: 7,558

Rep: Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495
I think that Slackware fulfills all your requirements.

It is stable and secure. For instance security advisories and associated updated packages are still provided for Slackware 12.1 released more than 4 years ago (and previons version were still maintained a few weeks ago).

It starts on the console by default and includes many windows managers (Fluxbox, Blackbox, WindowMaker and two others) as well as two desktops (XFVE and KDE).

It includes all you need for browsing internet and sending e-mails, both from the console or using a GUI. You can watch videos with mplayer (included) or VLC (provided by one of the main contributors).

PS Technically an X windowing environment (which can be either a Windows Manager or a Desktop can be used with a mouse but allows to type texts and commands in a "virtual terminal" as well. In console mode the console uses all the space of the screen (and you can switch between several consoles).

A mailer like mutt or a browser like lynks (all available in Slackware) can be used either in a WM or DE (in a virtual terminal) or at the console.

Slackware 14 will probably be released in a few weeks.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 08-17-2012 at 03:26 PM.
 
Old 08-17-2012, 08:40 PM   #5
frankbell
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Distribution: Slackware, Debian, Mageia, and whatever VMs I happen to be playing with
Posts: 12,365
Blog Entries: 16

Rep: Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146Reputation: 3146
Slackware or Debian would be my two nominations. Both are rock solid and value stability over gee-whiz bleeding edge.

Debian will offer to partition your HDD for you (as most Linux distros do during installation). Slackware does not. Once you get past the partitioning, the Slackware install is as straightforward as it can be.

If your box has wireless, it might be helpful to tell us what the wireless chipset is or to research "[chipset] Linux" on the internet. Some wireless chipsets are a little easier to get working in Linux than others, because some hardware manufacturers are friendlier to Linux than others.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 12:36 AM   #6
sKaar
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: dartmouth, nova scotia
Distribution: slackware 12.1
Posts: 74

Rep: Reputation: 2
after partitioning for slackware, the install is more 'ok, there's so much more to do, k, done that, that, um... oh, it's installed, just need to reboot, nice, um, won't boot, what's wrong wtf is lilo? hmm, root=? um, i forget ooh, it works, now to try kde... gah xorg.conf? it works now, ok, next thing to break... *several years later* ok, break so i can feel at home, like i do with windows! i'm going to visit for a while, oh hell, even on my old slack install, it's way better than this, gah, how did i ever tolerate this?! ooh, new game... only runs on windows '

and now... with valve recompiling their games for linux... other game producers eventually following suit(hopefully), all the web games already working cross platform...

Last edited by sKaar; 08-18-2012 at 12:41 AM.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 12:51 AM   #7
Didier Spaier
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slint64-14.2 on Lenovo Thinkpad W520
Posts: 7,558

Rep: Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495
Partitioning your hard drive shouldn't be an issue. Slackware installer includes command line tools to do that, namely the "fdisk" and "cfdisk" utilities. Typing "man fdisk" or "man cfdisk" in a search engine will direct you to the manual for it. Still, if that looks intimidating, you can use gparted instead.
About Slackware installation process, this document will tell you more.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 08-18-2012 at 01:14 AM.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 01:29 AM   #8
sKaar
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: dartmouth, nova scotia
Distribution: slackware 12.1
Posts: 74

Rep: Reputation: 2
the tools aren't the problem, learning what partitions are needed to make an efficient system is.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 01:39 AM   #9
Didier Spaier
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Nov 2008
Location: Paris, France
Distribution: Slint64-14.2 on Lenovo Thinkpad W520
Posts: 7,558

Rep: Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495Reputation: 2495
Quote:
Originally Posted by sKaar View Post
the tools aren't the problem, learning what partitions are needed to make an efficient system is.
Well that's a different topic, which would deserve its own thread -- though a quick search will show that there are already many threads about that in LQ
 
Old 08-18-2012, 02:24 AM   #10
sKaar
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2006
Location: dartmouth, nova scotia
Distribution: slackware 12.1
Posts: 74

Rep: Reputation: 2
yes, though there's cookbook answers that could be given, depending on what the user will be using their system for.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 03:18 AM   #11
zanier
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Nov 2011
Distribution: ubuntu/debian
Posts: 29

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
how can i delete my post in here?
someone help me

Last edited by zanier; 08-18-2012 at 03:25 AM.
 
Old 08-18-2012, 04:28 AM   #12
jlparsons
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Mar 2012
Posts: 9
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
I vote debian. I run a small company on debian 6 squeeze with LXDE. Very very fast, no frills. However you need to do some configuration with debian after installation, as likely as not. If you are a complete newbie and want something that works completely right out of the box then ubuntu, mint or fedora will probably be best.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Newbie Linux Suggestions coasterfreak212 Linux - Distributions 2 08-29-2004 06:18 AM
Super-new newbie, need direction. ActionPlant Linux - Newbie 8 10-28-2003 02:54 PM
newbie programming suggestions andrewlkho Programming 9 09-16-2003 04:36 PM
Looking for newbie suggestions jpbarto Linux - Software 7 07-09-2003 02:59 PM
Newbie needs direction Aragorn44267 Linux - Networking 3 08-22-2002 08:53 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:35 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration