Originally Posted by leopard
Hey guys...me again...
Well, the drivers have killed me again. Debian 'detects' wlan0 (wireless) but when it scans for networks it shows nothing (there should be at least one albeit weak). Well, I decided to proceed by entering my ESSID and password (hidden network) and sitting here on Windows, I'm pretty sure I/my ISP uses DHCP. Well, that was a no-go. So I manually put in my info (IP, subnet mask, sgateway, servers) and Debian gave me no error. Then it took forever to set the system clock, and finally, after installing the core system and selecting mirrors, did I only realize that I'm not connected; my Wireless card (it didn't detect my wired Ethernt for some reason) is not supported by Debian. Every mirror led to an error. So now I'm left with the basic, core system. How, oh how, do I fix this mess?
Well, you can try ndiswrapper but my advice is re-install Ubuntu or maybe Mint. Here's why:
I moved from Suse to Ubuntu at release 7.04. Been a happy customer ever since.
I have an early, like 5 years old, 64bit computer at home running Ubuntu Studio 64bit 9.10 and, aside from a few sound issues with 9.10 (e.g. disable pulseaudio) it's fine. Boots like greased lightening.
My 2-year old Toshiba labtop (work), 32bit, runs Ubuntu 9.10 straight; boots up so quickly that I'm working (having also logged in) while my desktop, running XP, hasn't even got to the login screen yet. And the desktop computer is some mega dual core intel thing.
Installs and upgrades are a doddle, finds the wireless OK, normally everything works, with maybe just a few tweaks. E.g. big issues with ATI Radeon card on my Tosh when going 9.04 -> 9.10 for a while but got it sorted. (Default drivers aren't always the best.)
So the slowness to boot is not a general Ubuntu problem and it's not a bloatware problem either. I'm not rushing to defend Ubuntu (I couldn't care less what people use) but I have seen several threads in the Ubuntu fora about 9.10 and slow boot up. The X11 service, I think, is partly to blame but if I recall correctly it's completely solvable. Maybe if you can't get your computer to boot up quickly, you should figure out why *before* distro hopping?
The problems you're having with debian suggests that you've still got some learning to do.
I'm sure you'll get there in the end but it might have been quicker to sort out your problems with Ubuntu.
Personally, I use Ubuntu as a means to an end. The last thing I want to do is to spend hours manually installing/deinstalling/configuring stuff. I can happily accept that Debian/Centos/Gentoo/SL/Suse/Mandriva/Puppy god knows what else are all better in some way but I'll tell you this: Ubuntu 9.10 boots fast.
Bloatware? That's Windoze.