Hey where is the 'finger' and 'rusers' command? Using Mandrake 9.0 and I swear every option from all 3 CD's was checked. Even the server stuff I know I don't need, I just checked off everything since I had the space.. I'm guessing there are other typical unix commands not installed that I haven't discovered yet. So what's up? where are they?

I understand that from another user that I can search for each command on the source cds using software Management in the Mandrake Control Panel but this isn't exactly what I'm asking for

Considering that these are standard unix commands, it only makes sense that there must me a whole bunch of other commands that I haven't discovered yet that also aren't available. So I don't want to be installing them one at a time as I discover, "...whoops! that one's missing too!, where's that CD again?"

I mean think about it, that's like writing a paper using MS Word, only to find that once you need a spellchecker whoops!, gotta go get the install cd, 10min's later you need a thesaurus, Uh-oh, where's the cd again?, 20mins later you need to insert an image, guess that macro never got installed!, cd must be around here somewhere!, etc.. etc... etc... See where I'm going with this?

Is there some kind of mechanism built into Linux/Mandrake to simply force it to install all the commands rather than the tedious way of slowly discovering each one, one at a time, going back to the source cd, blah blah blah and so on...

I assume that you are actually talking about programs or software and NOT UNIX commands. Unix commands are like cd, chmod, tar, cat, pack, gzip, ps, vi, passwd, pg, sh, sort. There are thousands of them and they are all on your computer right now.

If you are talking about software, then have you searched your drive? Mandrake doesnt put them all in in your menu. Take a look in in for example /usr/bin. There should be a few thousand executable applications. (not commands). Try the unix command 'whereis filename'. If you find what you are looking for then cd to the correct directory. When you are in the right directory then execute by './filename'. The program will start.

and yes I know there are thousands of them, and I was intending on using two in particular, Namely the finger command and the rusers command...

(yes commands not programs, as in open up a console window, and type in finger, or chmod or ls -al etc. etc.. etc...). The point that I was trying to make was that those two particular commands, (finger and rusers), didn't work! all I got was an error msg that said unrecognized command or something like that.

So I'm asking how do you install, activate, make ready, whatever!!!!, how do I get these commands and probably a few hundred others which I haven't discovered yet onto my system?

And yes, I would have assumed they would have been on there by default, but as I said I tried to use them, I even tried to do a "man finger" and "man rusers" and nothing, just an error msg.

So what's going on? Using mandrake 9.0, all of the updates installed, (not that that should matter), but where are those commands? don't they come as standard on most distro's?

results from Mandrake 8.2 when youu ls -Rs is rusers-0.17-6mdk.i586.rpm

you've probably already confirmed that the RPM was loaded with

rpm -V rusers

or

whereis rusers

and the same for finger

The files in question would be as follows:They are there. I do not know which CD they are on, but if you use rpmdrake (install software from the Mandrake Control Center), then you can search for them.

Perhaps this is a permissions issue? Try logging in as root and finger someone....

What shell are you using? bash? maybe try another.