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Old 02-19-2009, 05:07 AM   #16
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Try Linux From Scratch and Beyond Linux From Scratch. They're not based on any other distros, have no Package Manager, and should keep you from trolling for a while.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 05:18 AM   #17
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But how does it matter if the distro has a package manager or not? Even if it is there and you do not want to use it, its completely your choice. Whenever you need to install package download tarball and compile. But just do not complain if it does not compile for some missing dependencies.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 05:49 AM   #18
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Try Linux From Scratch and Beyond Linux From Scratch. They're not based on any other distros, have no Package Manager, and should keep you from trolling for a while.
Isn't LFS just a book? Where can i download that distro?
 
Old 02-19-2009, 05:59 AM   #19
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Isn't LFS just a book? Where can i download that distro?
It's a "book" that tells you how to create a distro from scratch, hence the name. Google "Linux From Scratch" if you want more info..
 
Old 02-19-2009, 06:13 AM   #20
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Well i have a very old computer and it will take ages for me to make my own distro and i also don't have time to read it now.. Are you sure there is no distro without a package manager?
 
Old 02-19-2009, 06:15 AM   #21
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There's a live CD goes with the book, makes things a bit more convenient than using an already installed distro.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 06:18 AM   #22
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distro without a package manager?
Slackware. It hasn't an "official" Package Manager in the same sense that Debian, Fedora, Mandriva, etc, do.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 06:23 AM   #23
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Package Managers vs. Compiling

The original post requested not having a package manager in the desired distro.....
A package manager in addition to compiling a package, also checks for dependencies, which are other packages/programs necessary for the installed package to work properly. Some work better than others. If you want to install tarballs from a package maintainer's website, then you will also need to track down all the dependent programs that go along with it, kinda like going on a scavenger hunt on the internet, sounds like fun,eh?
There's nothing simple about that process, but as far as compiling, you can use just about any distro and install a tarball in that manner, but what would be the purpose, the same package could be installed if it is in the distro's repository, and most modern distros have excellent package managers handling the dependencies. I guess the poster that referred you to Linux From Scratch, has the best answer....you'll just make your own distro.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 06:33 AM   #24
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What is with a distro that does not have package manager?????
 
Old 02-19-2009, 06:39 AM   #25
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ok.. let me guys put it this way..

What if i don't need to install anything? What if one game is all i want and that games consists of this one binary (i made that game btw) http://www.queenzsoftware.com/News28.php

So i need a distro with X and gtk+ libraries and nothing more..
 
Old 02-19-2009, 06:44 AM   #26
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Any distro will work. Forget if a distro has package manager or not. If it has do not use it.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 07:14 AM   #27
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Ok.. just wanted to know a little more about packages...

Tell me - What is the difference between dpkg; apt; .deb; synaptic - they all look the same for me..
 
Old 02-19-2009, 07:19 AM   #28
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.deb is a packaging system for Debian based distros. dpkg is a to install the packages that are in .deb format. apt is a package manager and synaptic is its front end.
 
Old 02-19-2009, 07:37 AM   #29
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.deb is a packaging system for Debian based distros. dpkg is a to install the packages that are in .deb format. apt is a package manager and synaptic is its front end.
oh..
What's a packaging system?
What is the difference between package manager and it's front end?
 
Old 02-19-2009, 07:54 AM   #30
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oh..
What's a packaging system?
What is the difference between package manager and it's front end?
In this specific case you are referring to (APT vs. Synaptic), Synaptic is simply a GTK+ graphical user interface for APT. The difference between them is the same difference which exists between any other command-line program and its GUI front end.

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