[SOLVED] Linux no longer boot up able. serious problem. arch based linux
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I can't read the spec sheets in german. But please check the specs.
Most of the sellers (Seagate, WD, and others) have two different technologies used for the disks.
I consider the ones using SMR are trash for long term use due to the way the data is "shingled" on the disk and while they work well for a short time as the disk gets more than ~25% full the write speed slows way down. Drives using the CMR writing do not have that problem. I have mostly gone to buying the enterprise drives since a lot of the home use drives use the SMR tech. Enterprise drives cost more but they almost exclusively use the CMR recording technology.
Here are a couple links to data sheets that show how to tell which tech is used here in the US.
This is the data sheet links for seagate 2.5 in form factor and as you can see all of the Barracuda 2.5 drives use SMR recording technology.
Here is the data sheet for the WD Blue 2.5 drives and you can see your chosen model is also SMR while the 500G and smaller drives still use CMR.
According to this guide the second one you linked is also SMR tech.
In my opinion SMR is most useful in a write-once-read-mostly scenario.
While SSDs cost more they do not suffer from the physical limitations of the drive recording tech currently used for the less expensive hard drives. Unfortunately I cannot find any information on HDD drives for laptops that are definitely CMR tech except the smaller ones 500G and less.
This SMR and CMR issue, are they for Mechanical hdd or for SDD ? i am confused.
I can't read the spec sheets in german. But please check the specs.
Most of the sellers (Seagate, WD, and others) have two different technologies used for the disks.
I consider the ones using SMR are trash for long term use due to the way the data is "shingled" on the disk and while they work well for a short time as the disk gets more than ~25% full the write speed slows way down. Drives using the CMR writing do not have that problem. I have mostly gone to buying the enterprise drives since a lot of the home use drives use the SMR tech. Enterprise drives cost more but they almost exclusively use the CMR recording technology.
Here are a couple links to data sheets that show how to tell which tech is used here in the US.
This is the data sheet links for seagate 2.5 in form factor and as you can see all of the Barracuda 2.5 drives use SMR recording technology.
Here is the data sheet for the WD Blue 2.5 drives and you can see your chosen model is also SMR while the 500G and smaller drives still use CMR.
According to this guide the second one you linked is also SMR tech.
In my opinion SMR is most useful in a write-once-read-mostly scenario.
While SSDs cost more they do not suffer from the physical limitations of the drive recording tech currently used for the less expensive hard drives. Unfortunately I cannot find any information on HDD drives for laptops that are definitely CMR tech except the smaller ones 500G and less.
I think you meant smr and cmr thing is actually refering to mechanical hdd, not ssd right ? If thats the case, i need to cancel the order.. useless as my hdd is not to store data like cloud, but rather read and write constantly.
Since WD only has got smr for 1Tb and above.. which hdd is cmr with 1TB , any idea ? Hard to find one 1TB hdd 2.5inch with CMR tech.
They didn't write smr or cmr on the product itself. horrible.
SMR is "shingled magnetic recording" which seems to be used for all the 2.5 form factor drives of >500G capacity. Involves reading and rewriting data in layers on the disk.
It may work well for you for some time, but lots of users have seen major degradation of speeds when the drives are being written to with large files. I seem to recall one case where a user was copying an image of one 1 TB drive to another and it took ~4 days to do that. Unreasonable when I can copy 3 TB of data between drives in < 8 hours at USB speeds.
That 2TB drive may very well serve your needs, but personally I would choose the greater expense of the SSD and consider it a good investment for the larger capacity storage and reliable speeds.
SMR is "shingled magnetic recording" which seems to be used for all the 2.5 form factor drives of >500G capacity. Involves reading and rewriting data in layers on the disk.
It may work well for you for some time, but lots of users have seen major degradation of speeds when the drives are being written to with large files. I seem to recall one case where a user was copying an image of one 1 TB drive to another and it took ~4 days to do that. Unreasonable when I can copy 3 TB of data between drives in < 8 hours at USB speeds.
That 2TB drive may very well serve your needs, but personally I would choose the greater expense of the SSD and consider it a good investment for the larger capacity storage and reliable speeds.
AHA!
This SMR and CMR are the technology used on traditional 2.5inches spinning hdd ?!
That could explain why my hdd spoiled so soon ? I tore open an external portable usb storage (such mybook) and used it as my laptop internal hdd. Since i read SMR is good for store write once and more read (instead of write read constantly).. could that be the reason why this hdd spoil so soon ? It means this external portable usb hdd uses SMR tech and i took it out to be used in laptop.. hence constant write read ruin it so soon.
If i got some wrong, please correct me.
I did invested in a SSD.. arrived today:
WD Blue 3D NAND SATA SSD 1 TB, 2,5 Zoll (interne SSD, hohe Zuverlässigkeit, Lesevorgänge bis zu 560 MB/s, Schreibvorgänge bis zu 530 MB/s,
since all 2.5inches hdd up to 500G size uses CMR, all above uses SMR, that means it never worth it to get a big spining hdd for laptop?
Most of the time a super large HDD for a laptop is not needed. That changes if it is your daily driver and is used constantly.
The SSD should be good for you for a long time and you might be surprised at the difference in time needed to boot and for other access when compared to the HDD.
Most of the time a super large HDD for a laptop is not needed. That changes if it is your daily driver and is used constantly.
The SSD should be good for you for a long time and you might be surprised at the difference in time needed to boot and for other access when compared to the HDD.
Yes, i have heard that ssd if super fast. and was heard that it will fail soon if swap is on ssd.. but recently someone mentioned that is no longer that fragile... hmm.. hopefully it is better.
as for the 1TB hdd 2.5inches, it is on the way to me already fr amazon..
I am planning to install linux os and win7 on ssd and use the 1TB hdd as data ...still got read write.. but slightly less.. Do you think that will be ok ? or should i return it and get a 500GB hdd instead ?
I can't imagine both of my internal hdd has high indication of failure.. i never have a failed hdd before, until now.
I would guess that you will be happy with the SSD and using the HDD for data. As long as you are not doing large extended writes that take a long time the HDD drives work.
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