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Old 11-01-2016, 11:45 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by remout View Post
Sierra wasn't listed as supported on Virtual Boxe's site. won't work?
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I am dyed-in-the-wool Linux bigot. I use (and have used for many years) Thinkpad laptops. In many ways they are the antithesis of the MAC .. they are heavy, bullet-proof and have no problem running Linux. I use virtual box to run VM's under Linux .. I too used VMware for years .. I was a beta tester for their original offering way back in the late 90's .... and for a number of reasons I changed to virtual box about 6 years ago and have had no cause to change back. My current Laptop is a Thinkpad W530 with 32G of memory, 1.5 TB of spinning disk and 128GB of msata SSD. This machine will handle several simultaneous VM's with no problem. I usually have a couple of Linux VM's running and always have Windows 7 running in a VM .... for those things that only MS can handle.

If you want to experiment go get a cheap Thinkpad of ebay .. Get a T61p with a 1920x1200 display if you can, spring for 8G of memory .. the T61 machines can take it ... and try out Linux with VM's

Remember as always YMMV


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I've got my VM Ubuntu installation working the way I like and I really like it. So fast.

My next problem is finding a high quality laptop, not a portable computer. I currently use a MacBook 11" Air. Love the size, sure wish it had more than the 8gb of Ram. My Air turns 4 y/o in 1 month. I feel it's irresponsible of me to depend, and my customers also depend, on a 4 y/o laptop. I have my wife's Air setup as a backup in case of emergency, I had to use it last month when my logic board went out. Put a burden on her.

I've looked at, and read user reviews for:
system76. User reviews on Reddit point to quality issues
asus Zen. Some quality issues and checking Canonical the Zen 3 is not supported
Dell. They're huge even the 13" Alienware is over 15" wide and it's not listed on Canonical. Several of the guys I work with use Dell's and their experience has been, on the performance laptops, that you better buy the longest warranty offered. We regularly have a Dell Tech replacing motherboards.

I guess this is why Apple can build a "Pro" laptop and the only thing of note is fast access to Emojis.

I want in order of priorities:
High quality, prefer alloy case, with a decent none button trackpad
Linux compatible
32 GB Ram
4 core processor

Would like:
Under 5lbs
24 hours of battery life while running 3 VMs..... just kidding

My none retina Air display is plenty good enough for me
I expect this mystical box to be expensive.

All advice appreciated!
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Dell has:

XPS 13 Developer Version
Functionally same size as my Air
Kaby Lake i7
16 GB DDR3 Ram
512 SSD
Comes loaded with Ubuntu 16.04


It's a Dell so service plan is mandatory for me. I'd rather have 32 gb Ram.
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Theres also the HP Spectre, Acer Swift 7, and Acer Predator 21 X
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Originally Posted by Habitual View Post
Yes it works and wow, was that ever easier than what I've been doing. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by remout View Post
I see that VMWare, one I'm familiar with, has a product "Workstation for Linux" sounds like what I'm looking for.

As a Linux newbie, it seems one good option would be to buy a laptop Linux already on it?
You can certainly find pre-installed Linux from several vendors. However, I think you'll find that you can load Linux onto most laptops suitable for the VM deployment you are planning.

1. Choose a distribution, download, make a DVD or USB install kit
Most distributions are a "live media" configuration that will boot-up
2. Use the DVD or USB and boot into the "live media"
This will let you play with that distribution on the laptop you are using.
Have trouble? Have access to another laptop? Boot there and try again.
3. Once your are comfortable with your choice of distribution and laptop,
accomplish the installation using the same DVD or USB.
4. After the installation, install the over-the-net updates [this is painless compared with WinXX.]

Reboot and you are ready to start adding your VM parts.

You may want to top-off your laptop installed RAM first. Linux will make efficient and effective use of whatever RAM you have, and VM operation will want as much RAM as you can make available.

~~~ 0;-Dan

I run Linux Mint 17.3 on a Thinkpad X220 Convertible. Prior to that I
used Ubuntu April-2008 edition, but switched to Mint (an Ubuntu cousin) in 2014. This was on a Thinkpad X61T Convertible.
My desktop and tower boxes are all either Ubuntu or Mint something.

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I bought the XPS 13 pre loaded with Ubuntu. I ordered the fastest processor and max ram they offer. It's got a 30 return on it, plenty of time for me to make sure it works for me.


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