LinuxQuestions.org
Latest LQ Deal: Latest LQ Deals
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 01-31-2009, 10:18 PM   #1
chrischristian
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Posts: 45

Rep: Reputation: 16
Question Is my hard disk damaged ?


I checked for hard disk on gparted (lenny) it just shows 233 gb in total (including swap) while mine laptop has 250 gb what happens to rest 17 gb ??
 
Old 01-31-2009, 10:44 PM   #2
jhwilliams
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2007
Location: Portland, OR
Distribution: Debian, Android, LFS
Posts: 1,168

Rep: Reputation: 211Reputation: 211Reputation: 211
http://www.techimo.com/forum/storage...e-you-pay.html
 
Old 01-31-2009, 10:46 PM   #3
r3sistance
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: UK
Distribution: CentOS 6/7
Posts: 1,375

Rep: Reputation: 217Reputation: 217Reputation: 217
Common misadvertisement, if you look at the hard drives manufacters website, or product page you'll likely see 1GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes however in truth 1GB = 1,073,741,824 bytes. Thus 7.3% is lost by a misadvertisement. Their is nothing to worry about it really, it's very common and almost all hardware vendors do this dispite the fact it's completely inaccurate and did leave them slightly vunable from a legal point of view (because of the mis-advertimsent). However rules were taken and the more annoying thing came about of referring to GB = 1,000,000,000 was made, even tho such a number is nusiance in computing because it is not a direct power of 2...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte

Fairly good source.

Last edited by r3sistance; 01-31-2009 at 10:59 PM.
 
Old 01-31-2009, 11:46 PM   #4
chrischristian
Member
 
Registered: Jan 2009
Posts: 45

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 16
COOL ! So simple thanx
 
Old 01-31-2009, 11:58 PM   #5
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 133Reputation: 133
Quote:
Thus 7.3% is lost by a misadvertisement. Their is nothing to worry about it really, it's very common and almost all hardware vendors do this dispite the fact it's completely inaccurate and did leave them slightly vunable from a legal point of view
Not correct, really. The hard drive manufacturers are 100% right. Kilo means 1000, Mega means 1,000,000 and giga means 1,000,000,000. Evidence: 1 kilometer = 1000 meters, 1 kilogram = 1000 grams, etc. The conception that we should use 1024 as a base derives from the RAM manufacturing industry, where the standards are not kilo, mega and giga but KIBI, MEBI and GIBI (thus: kibibyte, mebibyte and gibibyte). If anyone runs a risk of legal claims for misadvertisement, it is them. Then again, who would push charges for getting more than advertised...

Last edited by jay73; 02-01-2009 at 12:00 AM.
 
Old 02-01-2009, 12:42 AM   #6
r3sistance
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: UK
Distribution: CentOS 6/7
Posts: 1,375

Rep: Reputation: 217Reputation: 217Reputation: 217
The terms as whole words were created by technician's... so the original meanings were 1024 at each increment as a defined standard.
 
Old 02-01-2009, 02:57 AM   #7
jay73
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2006
Location: Belgium
Distribution: Ubuntu 11.04, Debian testing
Posts: 5,019

Rep: Reputation: 133Reputation: 133
No they are/were not... These terms have been IEC/ISO/IEEC standards for the last ten years - before that, the 1000/1024 pairs were used interchangeably, without there being any clear definition at all. However, ten to the third power has always been the rule in both storage and CPUs (how many Hz is a megaHz?).
Hard drive manufacturers have been the subject of litigation in the past and they have repeatedly been cleared of all charges. Your are only adding to the general confusion.
 
Old 02-01-2009, 08:23 AM   #8
r3sistance
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2004
Location: UK
Distribution: CentOS 6/7
Posts: 1,375

Rep: Reputation: 217Reputation: 217Reputation: 217
The general confusion was caused because orignally it was 1024. However because of the looseness of the term, hardware vendors turned around and outputted 1000 instead of 1024 so they could sell effectively less for more money, but meh~. Generally the industry to move over to MiB and GiB. 1000 is a nusiance number as far as computing goes as it's not a direct number you can get as a power of two, also as far as I am aware, in RAM most vendors still use 1024 as well, it was only the hardware vendors trying to trick people out of the effective storage in the first place that truly caused any issues... As for Hurtz, you could say a Hurtz is a scientific term, not a technical term~. Kilo, Mega and giga do mean thousand, million, so from that point of view it is right, but it wasn't how the figures were original defined for a measurement of storage.

Companies using technicalities and confusing the entire industry is common and shouldn't be accepted, you get similar confusions with hubs, switches and routers these days since different companies claim them to be different things and now the lines are so blurred the hardware manufactures get away with defining it however they want.
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
how to tell if hard drive is damaged ? pleasehelpme Linux - Hardware 1 12-05-2007 01:43 AM
Can't mount disk--could be damaged? grittyminder Linux - Hardware 17 08-10-2007 11:00 PM
hard disk damaged aral Linux - Hardware 1 10-19-2006 06:02 PM
Possibly damaged hard disk? Citizen Bleys Linux - Hardware 2 04-12-2006 08:10 PM
Boot Disk Damaged xm0b31 Linux - Newbie 3 05-04-2004 09:28 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:28 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration