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Old 09-22-2015, 12:54 PM   #1
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Help Installing Civilization III on Linux Mint


I started playing the "online" internet-based Civilization on my new Linux Mint installation and have discovered that you cannot save a game and come back to it later, so I want to install an .ISO of "CivIII" and run the game locally. I have WINE installed and have tried various methods and all result in failure. I have several different .ISO's mounted atm and one of them completed the install but the game will still not launch.

Any help?
 
Old 09-22-2015, 08:20 PM   #2
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Hi:

I'm not really good with games but you can try here:

http://www.linux.com/community/forum...vilization-iii

Maybe join the Civilization Forum and ask there-
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93759

Hope it helps.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 02:17 AM   #3
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Thanks, I read both of those. One was dated 2004, which freaked me out. Guess Civ III just isn't all that popular? It's electronic crack and wastes gobs and gobs of time, so maybe it's better that I don't get too comfortable playing it. I'm trying to find ways to entertain myself on my 3 week old Linux Mint O/S in order to NOT go back to Windows. Win10 was "it" for me. Strike 7 and Microsoft is OUT. I really mean it this time. I flirted with dual boot Ubuntu a few years back and got drug back to the dark side and this time I'm doing Linux like I quit smoking, which is "cold turkey". Maybe there's a game that has similar qualities that is more documented for Linux? My instinct is that if I knew enough "sudo blarkramistab" commands I could probably coerce it into working. I've been working on computers for years and have a highly developed instict; this thing WANTS to run, I'm just missing the magic ingredient.

Anyways, thanks for the help. It's good to know I'm not all alone in the Linux wasteland dying slowly of dehydration. Any recommendations for a turn-based, long-range strategic type of game would be appreciated. I don't game much in the "wide variety" sense. Usually I have one, maybe two that I mess around with and that's it. I just need something to keep me from wanting to reboot into Win7 again.

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Hi:

I'm not really good with games but you can try here:

http://www.linux.com/community/forum...vilization-iii

Maybe join the Civilization Forum and ask there-
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=93759

Hope it helps.
 
Old 09-23-2015, 03:41 AM   #4
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According to the Wine App Database Civilization III should run reasonably fine (there seem to be some sound issues) with Wine 1.6 and higher.
Which version of Wine do you use, which version of Civilization III and which problems do you have exactly (please post complete error messages).
 
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There are some strategic games here:

http://community.linuxmint.com/software/browse/19

Study Linux at a deeper level and that may keep you busy not to turn back to Windows.

Run Slackware it will teach you things and you will never be intimidated by another distribution ever again.-
 
Old 09-24-2015, 03:55 AM   #6
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According to the Wine App Database Civilization III should run reasonably fine (there seem to be some sound issues) with Wine 1.6 and higher.
Which version of Wine do you use, which version of Civilization III and which problems do you have exactly (please post complete error messages).
Using Wine ver. 1.6.2 and I find no mention of any "version" of CivIII. I've mounted and attempted to install several different .ISO's. One place on a forum mentioned that securom (copyright protection) could be an issue with getting a game to install via .ISO image, that having "<somefilename>.tmp" at the root of the .ISO's installation directory was a certain sign of Securom being present and one of the .ISO's has these .tmp directories, while another one does not. FYI "securom" as I understand it, delibarately reports data being at certain sectors on the CD/image file when it is somewhere else, in order to prevent the installation from being able to run, which is consistent with my symptom.

I only have one symptom which is that the game starts to launch and then stops. The CivIII "edit" executable works just fine, so I could make a custom CivIII game map but not actually play the game. The game seems to be about 8 years old, so I doubt anyone cares anymore.
 
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There are some strategic games here:

http://community.linuxmint.com/software/browse/19

Study Linux at a deeper level and that may keep you busy not to turn back to Windows.

Run Slackware it will teach you things and you will never be intimidated by another distribution ever again.-
I'll keep that in mind. I see "slackware" mentioned a lot, everywhere, for years and have no idea what it is, but I have a tendency to migrate towards the really cool stuff, so if it's really cool, eventually I will learn about it.
 
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Using Wine ver. 1.6.2 and I find no mention of any "version" of CivIII. I've mounted and attempted to install several different .ISO's. One place on a forum mentioned that securom (copyright protection) could be an issue with getting a game to install via .ISO image, that having "<somefilename>.tmp" at the root of the .ISO's installation directory was a certain sign of Securom being present and one of the .ISO's has these .tmp directories, while another one does not. FYI "securom" as I understand it, delibarately reports data being at certain sectors on the CD/image file when it is somewhere else, in order to prevent the installation from being able to run, which is consistent with my symptom.
SecuRom will test for those altered sectors on the CD/DVD when the game is launched, not during installation, so if you have problems during installation they are likely not related to SecuRom.
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I only have one symptom which is that the game starts to launch and then stops.
Please start the game from the commandline and post the error messages you get, without them it is pretty much impossible to help you.
 
Old 09-28-2015, 03:56 AM   #9
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SecuRom will test for those altered sectors on the CD/DVD when the game is launched, not during installation, so if you have problems during installation they are likely not related to SecuRom.

Please start the game from the commandline and post the error messages you get, without them it is pretty much impossible to help you.
One of the .ISO's did install completely, even to the extent that the CivIIEdit .exe will run just fine. It's used to create custom maps for the game.

So, the symptoms at this point are as you describe, in that the (I assume) correctly installed game will not launch. I guess it wants a physical CD in the drive? No cd crack?

How do I launch from "command line"?
Thanks for your help.
 
Old 09-28-2015, 05:10 AM   #10
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Only a few older entries in the Wine Application Database contain information that a NoCD crack might be needed (please keep in mind that we can't help you with that here due to legal reasons), newer ones don't mention it.

To launch the game from the commandline you start a terminal (you should find that in your menu) and then run it from there with
Code:
wine /path/to/the/Civ3.exe
Sorry, van't give you the correct path, I don't have the game here, currently, but you will likely find the Civ3.exe (or a similar named exe) somewhere under ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/.
 
Old 09-29-2015, 12:19 AM   #11
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Only a few older entries in the Wine Application Database contain information that a NoCD crack might be needed (please keep in mind that we can't help you with that here due to legal reasons), newer ones don't mention it.

To launch the game from the commandline you start a terminal (you should find that in your menu) and then run it from there with
Code:
wine /path/to/the/Civ3.exe
Sorry, van't give you the correct path, I don't have the game here, currently, but you will likely find the Civ3.exe (or a similar named exe) somewhere under ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/.
Here's the path:

Quote:
/home/linux/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files (x86)/Civilization III
When I enter this in Terminal, it doesn't like the "(" in "(x86)" and I've tried various ways to modify it without success.

Quote:
bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
 
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You have to escape spaces and special characters using the backslash. The path above should look like
Code:
/home/linux/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files\ \(x86\)/Civilization\ III
 
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You have to escape spaces and special characters using the backslash. The path above should look like
Code:
/home/linux/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files\ \(x86\)/Civilization\ III
Not sure how tolerant Linux is with syntax, but the above string would not work, so I figured out how to manually drill down one level at a time and found the problem was with the "Program Files" directory.

Quote:
Program Files\ \(x86\)
issuing "cd" to the above string did not work. Note it's a direct copy from your post. Using the "dir" command I found that the text below did work.


Quote:
cd Program\ Files\ \(x86\)
I learned that the backslash in : "\(x86\)" WAS necessary. At first I thought it was a typo. I assume there is something special about a ")" right parenthesis that it does not get included in the preceding "(x86" string, but now note:

"Progam Files\ " did NOT work, but "Program\ Files" was necessary, so that's where the flexibility vs. type question comes in. Still playing with it, and learning. I don't mind the typo; you gave me enough to go with on the idea that the backslash causes linux to "ignore" what comes later, it's the "what comes later" part and the definition of the word "ignore" I'm still unclear on, but I have what I need for right now, so thanks for that.
 
  


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