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Old 12-04-2012, 01:29 PM   #1
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grub and changing distro location


Hi,

I'm trying to move a distro from sdc1 to sda3. It boots as hd0,0 from
sdc1 and as hd0,2 from sda3. I used cp -av to copy all the files.

After adjusting menu.lst and /etc/fstab it still hangs midway thru boot
telling me either it is spawning too fast and has stopped or cannot create
the root file system and has stopped. Perhaps initrd needs to be
recreated. I wonder what I have missed.

This is grub legacy.

THX

patrick
 
Old 12-04-2012, 04:27 PM   #2
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It boots as hd0,0 from
sdc1 and as hd0,2 from sda3.
Well, that's a little unusual. You haven't really posted much information. You have at least two drives, how many partitions? how many operating systems? what are they? What are you using to boot? You might just go to the site below and read the instructions on the bootinfoscript, download and run it on any Linux and review the output, a results.txt file. Or you could post it here.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/bootinfoscript/
 
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You might just go to the site below and read the instructions on the bootinfoscript, download and run it on any Linux and review the output, a results.txt file. Or you could post it here.
Rather long but here goes. Trying to get sda3 to boot.

Code:
                  Boot Info Script 0.61      [1 April 2012]


============================= Boot Info Summary: ===============================

 => Grub Legacy (v0.97) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks on the 
    same drive in partition #1 for /boot/grub/stage2 and /boot/grub/menu.lst.
 => Syslinux MBR (4.04 and higher) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sdb.

sda1: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ext4
    Boot sector type:  -
    Boot sector info: 
    Operating System:  PCLinuxOS release 2012 
                       (PCLinuxOS) for i586 Kernel 2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs on a 
                       Dual-processor i686 /
    Boot files:        /boot/grub/menu.lst /etc/fstab

sda2: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ext4
    Boot sector type:  -
    Boot sector info: 
    Operating System:  
    Boot files:        

sda3: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ext4
    Boot sector type:  -
    Boot sector info: 
    Operating System:  Fedora release 14 (Laughlin) 
                       Kernel on an ()
    Boot files:        /boot/grub/menu.lst /boot/grub/grub.conf /etc/fstab

sda4: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       Extended Partition
    Boot sector type:  Unknown
    Boot sector info: 

sda5: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ext4
    Boot sector type:  -
    Boot sector info: 
    Operating System:  
    Boot files:        

sda6: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ext4
    Boot sector type:  -
    Boot sector info: 
    Operating System:  
    Boot files:        

sda7: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ntfs
    Boot sector type:  Windows Vista/7: NTFS
    Boot sector info:  No errors found in the Boot Parameter Block.
    Operating System:  
    Boot files:        

sdb1: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ext3
    Boot sector type:  EXTLINUX 3.85 2010-02-20
    Boot sector info:  Syslinux looks at sector 311296 of /dev/sdb1 for its 
                       second stage.
    Operating System:  
    Boot files:        /boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf 
                       /boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys

sdb2: __________________________________________________________________________

    File system:       ext4
    Boot sector type:  -
    Boot sector info: 
    Operating System:  
    Boot files:        

============================ Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda _____________________________________________________________________

Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders, total 312581808 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition  Boot  Start Sector    End Sector  # of Sectors  Id System

/dev/sda1    *             63    21,494,969    21,494,907  83 Linux
/dev/sda2          21,494,970    34,395,164    12,900,195  83 Linux
/dev/sda3          34,395,165    55,890,134    21,494,970  83 Linux
/dev/sda4          55,890,135   312,576,704   256,686,570   5 Extended
/dev/sda5          55,890,198   161,356,859   105,466,662  83 Linux
/dev/sda6         161,356,923   266,823,584   105,466,662  83 Linux
/dev/sda7         266,823,648   312,576,704    45,753,057   7 NTFS / exFAT / HPFS


Drive: sdb _____________________________________________________________________

Disk /dev/sdb: 32.1 GB, 32082231296 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 30596 cylinders, total 62660608 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes

Partition  Boot  Start Sector    End Sector  # of Sectors  Id System

/dev/sdb1    *             32     1,394,687     1,394,656  83 Linux
/dev/sdb2           1,394,688    62,660,607    61,265,920  83 Linux


"blkid" output: ________________________________________________________________

Device           UUID                                   TYPE       LABEL

/dev/sda1        a5adc2ce-fbc3-4511-a7ab-8f6a77becbfd   ext4       LXDE2011-F
/dev/sda2        c1aac268-ae8b-4b31-94af-dcf525c564f5   ext4       FILES-F
/dev/sda3        6a1cea48-007e-4a6b-899f-6fab8c75bbd8   ext4       LINUX-DATA-0
/dev/sda5        b3e192dc-ca6f-4506-ae30-f8cb4e6be621   ext4       LINUX-DATA-1
/dev/sda6        069d6b67-001f-4768-b552-8bececbf163b   ext4       LINUX-DATA-2
/dev/sda7        5E903012229BD385                       ntfs       NTFS-DATA
/dev/sdb1        307f922a-e58b-4289-a5d9-7a4363e77d7a   ext3       TC
/dev/sdb2        862d177d-4302-4d64-b22b-30e0aef0a0fb   ext4       SDHC

================================ Mount points: =================================

Device           Mount_Point              Type       Options

/dev/sda1        /                        ext4       (rw,noatime)
/dev/sda2        /media/FILES-F           ext4       (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sda3        /media/LINUX-DATA-0      ext4       (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sda5        /media/LINUX-DATA-1      ext4       (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sda6        /media/LINUX-DATA-2      ext4       (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sda7        /media/NTFS-DATA         fuseblk    (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
/dev/sdb1        /media/TC                ext3       (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
/dev/sdb2        /media/SDHC              ext4       (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)


=========================== sda1/boot/grub/menu.lst: ===========================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
timeout 4
color light-gray/black white/black
default 0

title 2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs root=LABEL=LXDE2011-F 
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs.img

title 2.6.38.8-pclos3
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38.8-pclos3 BOOT_IMAGE=2.6.38.8-pclos3 root=LABEL=LXDE2011-F 
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd-2.6.38.8-pclos3.img

title linux
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux root=LABEL=LXDE2011-F 
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.img

title linux-nonfb
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=linux-nonfb root=LABEL=LXDE2011-F quiet vmalloc=256M acpi=on
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.img

title failsafe
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/vmlinuz BOOT_IMAGE=failsafe root=LABEL=LXDE2011-F quiet failsafe vmalloc=256M acpi=on
initrd (hd0,0)/boot/initrd.img

title memtest-4.20
kernel (hd0,0)/boot/memtest-4.20 BOOT_IMAGE=memtest-4.20 

title Fedora F14 LXDE (2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686)
	root (hd0,2)
        configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst 
#	kernel (hd0,2)/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686 ro root=UUID=6a1cea48-007e-4a6b-899f-6fab8c75bbd8 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
#	initrd (hd0,2)/boot/initramfs-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.img
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=============================== sda1/etc/fstab: ================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# Entry for /dev/sdb1 :
LABEL=LXDE2011-F / ext4 noatime 1 1
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
none /dev/pts devpts defaults 0 0
#UUID=1262864b-d43c-43b6-9b62-8aba37f31e0b  swap  swap defaults 0 0
#LABEL=FILES-F /home/user/FILES ext4 noatime 1 1

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=================== sda1: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================

           GiB - GB             File                                 Fragment(s)

   6.443625927 = 6.918790656    boot/grub/menu.lst                             1
   4.758521557 = 5.109423616    boot/grub/stage2                               1
   4.765189648 = 5.116583424    boot/initrd-2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs.img            1
   4.758414745 = 5.109308928    boot/initrd-2.6.38.8-pclos3.img                1
   4.765189648 = 5.116583424    boot/initrd.img                                1
   0.304717541 = 0.327187968    boot/initrd.img.old                            2
   4.770347118 = 5.122121216    boot/vmlinuz                                   1
   4.767570019 = 5.119139328    boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38.8-pclos3                   1
   4.770347118 = 5.122121216    boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38.8-pclos3.bfs               1

========================== sda3/boot/grub/grub.conf: ===========================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# grub.conf generated by anaconda
#
# Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file
# NOTICE:  You do not have a /boot partition.  This means that
#          all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /, eg.
#          root (hd0,0)
#          kernel /boot/vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/sdc1
#          initrd /boot/initrd-[generic-]version.img
#boot=/dev/sdc
default=0
timeout=0
splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz
hiddenmenu
title Fedora F14 LXDE (2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686)
	root (hd0,2)
	kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686 ro root=UUID=6a1cea48-007e-4a6b-899f-6fab8c75bbd8 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
	initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.img
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=============================== sda3/etc/fstab: ================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

#
# /etc/fstab
# Created by anaconda on Sun Nov 18 19:54:49 2012
#
# Accessible filesystems, by reference, are maintained under '/dev/disk'
# See man pages fstab(5), findfs(8), mount(8) and/or blkid(8) for more info
#
UUID=6a1cea48-007e-4a6b-899f-6fab8c75bbd8    /  ext4    noatime         1 1
tmpfs                   /dev/shm                tmpfs   defaults        0 0
devpts                  /dev/pts                devpts  gid=5,mode=620  0 0
sysfs                   /sys                    sysfs   defaults        0 0
proc                    /proc                   proc    defaults        0 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=================== sda3: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================

           GiB - GB             File                                 Fragment(s)

  17.662615299 = 18.965088768   boot/grub/grub.conf                            1
  17.662615299 = 18.965088768   boot/grub/menu.lst                             1
  17.657740116 = 18.959854080   boot/grub/stage2                               1
  16.420420170 = 17.631291904   boot/initramfs-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.img       1
  17.654013157 = 18.955852288   boot/initrd-plymouth.img                       1
  17.657457829 = 18.959550976   boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686             1

====================== sdb1/boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf: =======================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
DEFAULT core
LABEL core
KERNEL /boot/vmlinuz
APPEND initrd=/boot/core.gz quiet  waitusb=5:LABEL="TC" tce=LABEL="TC" home=LABEL="TC"  
#APPEND initrd=/boot/core.gz quiet  waitusb=5:UUID="58ac1005-3c90-44be-bce0-6d23fe496d7b" tce=UUID="58ac1005-3c90-44be-bce0-6d23fe496d7b" home=UUID="58ac1005-3c90-44be-bce0-6d23fe496d7b"  --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=================== sdb1: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================

           GiB - GB             File                                 Fragment(s)

   0.179283142 = 0.192503808    boot/vmlinuz                                   2

================= sdb1: Location of files loaded by Syslinux: ==================

           GiB - GB             File                                 Fragment(s)

   0.176925659 = 0.189972480    boot/extlinux/extlinux.conf                    1
   0.148468018 = 0.159416320    boot/extlinux/extlinux.sys                     1

======================== Unknown MBRs/Boot Sectors/etc: ========================

Unknown BootLoader on sda4

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00000010  f1 54 3e 3f 02 d0 34 6a  96 e2 47 55 4a ff e8 3d  |.T>?..4j..GUJ..=|
00000020  be 51 dc 89 dc 96 5b 62  75 58 52 fa 5f 69 7c 8a  |.Q....[buXR._i|.|
00000030  69 a7 9f 1e db 35 b8 41  ca 6c 0e 5a 64 20 cb e9  |i....5.A.l.Zd ..|
00000040  bb e5 55 2c a2 d1 f0 b7  dd fe 59 19 26 1e 25 64  |..U,......Y.&.%d|
00000050  d0 ff 6c d6 a4 b0 c4 c9  d2 61 f0 96 e1 cf 9f 63  |..l......a.....c|
00000060  9c a8 9d 96 c6 b2 22 82  f1 30 06 97 d1 ed 10 1d  |......"..0......|
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000000a0  34 04 f4 cd ca d5 6c 62  7c 4b 7f 39 29 b2 f0 09  |4.....lb|K.9)...|
000000b0  df 19 fe 6b 82 e1 de 52  4d 74 f5 38 68 5b 39 ab  |...k...RMt.8h[9.|
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How did grub appear on /dev/sda3 ?.
Did you copy it from sda1, or (re-)install it from with that Fedora system ?.
 
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How did grub appear on /dev/sda3 ?.
Did you copy it from sda1, or (re-)install it from with that Fedora system ?.
Well grub itself is in sda, the sda3 entries are from sdc1, I just changed root to
hd0,2 and the UUID to the partition's UUID at sda3.

The prefdm attempt during boot says respawning to fast, stopped.
If I boot a second way, thru menu.lst in sda1 for sda3 it says can't mount root filesystem, stopped.

So I don't know, hope you can help.

Thanks for the response.

Patrick
 
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In the PCLinux menu.lst, put the entry below for Fedora.

Quote:
title Fedora F14 LXDE (2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686)
root (hd0,2)
configfile /boot/grub/grub.conf
If that doesn't work, try the entry below in PCLinux menu.lst
Quote:
title Fedora F14 LXDE (2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686 ro root=UUID=6a1cea48-007e-4a6b-899f-6fab8c75bbd8 rd_NO_LUKS rd_NO_LVM rd_NO_MD rd_NO_DM LANG=en_US.UTF-8 SYSFONT=latarcyrheb-sun16 KEYBOARDTYPE=pc KEYTABLE=us rhgb quiet
initrd /boot/initramfs-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.i686.img
I would expect the first option to work.
 
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Things might work if you change the "root" to point to your active grub, rather than the one you are transferring into - that (target) has no active code.
Personally I have always chroot into the target system and do a grub-install/setup/whatever the distro needs.
 
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Things might work if you change the "root" to point to your active grub, rather than the one you are transferring into - that (target) has no active code.
Personally I have always chroot into the target system and do a grub-install/setup/whatever the distro needs.
Nothing in this thread works.

The problem as I see it is when I cp the files from
sdc1 to sda3 and try to boot from any menu.lst is that
the initrd has to be changed to do so. But, it is very
hard to change the initrd on an inactive partition.

If the initrd can be changed while the partition is inactive
to relate to sda3 rather than sdc1 success is done.

I've only seen it done once, it's like a five step process,
and I can't find the thread where such genius has done so.

If I cp a change from sdc1 to sda1, no problem, but from sdc1
to sda3, then the initrd needs changing, big problem then.

So right now it's just a technical question, but not completely
unresolvable.

thanks for your response,

patrick
 
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Nothing in this thread works.
Including my suggestion to chroot and (re-)install the bootloader ?.
Is is extremely unlikely the initrd needs adjusting.
 
  


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