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Old 11-28-2009, 03:47 AM   #1
andygravity
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Fedora Core 11 installation help, please.


Having trouble getting a proper installation of FC11 x86_64 running.
Currently running Kernel: 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64 in command line only.
There is no xorg or X11 running, and yum can't seem to load anything from the network.

On initial installation, it keeps saying that X11 failed, but I don't know why, or where to look for info. Yum found the necessary packages for xinit, but everything cam back with 'no mirror found' errors.

Any help is appreciated.
AndyR
I need some help!
 
Old 11-28-2009, 05:31 AM   #2
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You may have to configure your X manually.

Then issue:
$ startx &

If possible send the following info:
1> Graphics card.
2> RAM.
 
Old 11-28-2009, 01:01 PM   #3
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Thanx! Graphics cards(2) nVidia , 4Gb RAM

I've been piecing this thing together. The first iso disk seems to have installed a basic system, which runs as command line, but X11 never loaded. One running, it doesn't see the CD-ROM drive, and I'm not sure how to mount it, or the USB drive containing an nVidia Driver.

I've used 'repair' mode to do a 'yum update' and have been slowly piecing together something like a proper X-system, but appear to be missing a few pieces. I've also tried to collect enough to run Gnome, but it keeps giving me an error about not finding any screens.

Win7-64 runs fine. WinXP runs fine. FC11-x86_64 v. 2.6.30.9-96.fc-11.x86_64 runs in command line only.

AndyR
 
Old 11-28-2009, 01:42 PM   #4
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Hi imagine_me2! Ok...there are 2-nVidia Quadro 285 cards mounted.
How do I get out to nVidia to collect the proper driver?

I tried doing an X -configure, and I seem to have collected an nVidia 'nouveau' driver, which is for the wrong chipset. How do I remove this driver?

I'm currently operating in 'repair' mode, and the network is activated, but this is thru the command line. Can I use this to get out to nVidia and grab the right driver?

Conversly, I can scan the nvidia site on my WinXP laptop, and download the proper driver to a USB drive. The Linux system will 'see' the drive...how do I mount it so that I can copy the driver from there?

Thanx!
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Old 11-28-2009, 01:47 PM   #5
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Possibly that mount USB, install and rerun X configs.
 
Old 11-28-2009, 03:34 PM   #6
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Got the driver from nVidia, figured out mounting for USBDrive and installed the driver.

Still no joy. Could there be a problem w/ the existing nouveau driver? If so, How do I remove that one?

Thanx!
 
Old 11-29-2009, 11:56 AM   #7
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Hmmm.... i know some propreitary drivers have dropped support for certain builds other than that i can't see why you'd have a problem. Certain you've uninstalled all the prior drivers and configured x correctly? Always good to double check. Sorry couldn't be more help.
 
Old 11-29-2009, 01:25 PM   #8
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Hmmm.... i know some propreitary drivers have dropped support for certain builds other than that i can't see why you'd have a problem. Certain you've uninstalled all the prior drivers and configured x correctly? Always good to double check. Sorry couldn't be more help.
Running 'X -configure' creates a test xorg.config that results is a blank screen as well. I've actually tried copying the xorg.conf from another system running FC9, with an nVidia card.

All that happens, when switched to init 5 is a blank screen.

I do get these messages, as it wakes up in init 3:
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP):eth0: link is not ready
tg3: eth0: Link is up at 100Mbps, full duplex
tg3: eth0:flow control is on for TX and on for RX
ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE):eth0: link becomes ready

How can I test this?
Thanx!
 
Old 11-29-2009, 01:43 PM   #9
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You may have to boot with acpi turned off. I'm not sure how to do so with fedora core but a blank screen is usually related to acpi issue or bad drivers.
 
Old 11-29-2009, 02:10 PM   #10
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OK, first you should be aware that F11 will be unsupported in about 7 months. (Fedora usually makes a new release about every six months, and support for all but the prior release is dropped one month after a new release. Since F12 was released this month, F11 has only about six or seven supported months of "life" remaining.)

You should also be aware that nVida has only "open sourced" drivers for their older chipsets and processors, so newer nVidia hardware will not be supported "out of the box" by any Fedora release.

On the other hand, I'm entering this comment from a HP laptop with a Quanta m/b that uses several nVidia chipsets, including the display driver, and it seems to be running without a hitch using the nouveau driver.

So, first suggestion: Install F12.

If you want to stay with F11, in order to get this laptop to work, I needed to install the nVidia driver from the rpm-fusion RPM repositories.

So, second suggestion: Enable the rpm-fusion repositories and install the akmod RPm for the nVidia driver. ("Google rpm-fusion for the address.)

Oh, a final aside: F12 includes the cnetworkmanager app that, if installed, will automate network connection for a command line, or just install wicd and use it instead of the default NetworkManager in either F11 or F12. (If you use cnetworkmanager, start it with the "&" option, and disown it once the connection is started. Otherwise you'll be stuck in cnetworkmanager interactive session, not not be able to do anything else.)

Further aside: The "Core" was dropped from the Fedora releases when the "Extras" repository was merged with the "Core" repository to create the "Everything" one. So, pedantically speaking, there "ain't no such thing" as Fedora Core 11. IIRC, the last Fedora release with a "Core" in it's name was "Fedora Core 7."

Last edited by PTrenholme; 11-29-2009 at 02:16 PM.
 
Old 11-29-2009, 03:27 PM   #11
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Thanx! It looks like you know what you are doing. ;-)
Meanwhile this F11_64 is pieced together. Originally, I tried the DVD.iso, and migrated to the 6-disk .iso series, but that only got thru Disk 1, never asking for the other disks. This put in the commandline, but little else.
Since then, I've been doing yum updates, and importing bits and pieces, but still may not have enough of the system together to make this thing light up.

Graphics cards are nVidia NV44 (Quadro NVS285) There are two of these, side by side, and I have removed one of 'em. This allowed X -configure to arrive at a single-head xorg.conf...which still dosen't work. I downloaded and installed the following driver from nVidia: NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-190.42-pkg2.run

The yum call didn't work, so I have to switch to 'rescue' mode.

So...two basic questions: Assuming that the DVD and/or CDs actually would have installed a working system, running Gnome...why did they stop at the first level?

How do I invlke NetworkManager from the command line to open up the eth0 port?

Thanx! I'll also be downloading 12.
 
Old 11-29-2009, 04:00 PM   #12
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Ok...new info. I pulled one of the nvidia cards...figuring that this may be confusing the installer. So'nuff, it's alive and running what looks like the gnome interface thru the install. It also just asked for disk2...so things appear to be running ok.

The installation asked for Disks 1-4 out of 6. What's on those other two disks?

Thanx!
 
Old 11-29-2009, 04:22 PM   #13
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I guess SLI isn't supported in linux?
 
Old 11-29-2009, 05:59 PM   #14
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Blast! Went all the way through to the reboot...and here's the blank screen, with blinking cursor. I went in w/ rescue mode, and did an X-configure...the /tmp/root/xorg.conf.new showed that it didn't find my Dell monitor, and loaded 'nouveau' for the driver.

There is no /etc/inittab file either!

How do I return to the commandline interface?
(so I can change back to RunLevel 3)

I have the nVidia Driver package from nVidia...is there some way to mount a USB drive while in 'rescue' mode?

Thanx!
 
Old 11-29-2009, 06:36 PM   #15
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Try FC12, newer drivers available in installation.
 
  


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