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Old 06-11-2008, 07:18 PM   #1
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Unhappy Does anyone know how to reopen a window closed due to a bug?


I was making something on quizilla, it was super long and I must have worked on it for hours, and I DID try to save it as a draft before, but apparently that function wasn't working at the time because the new quizilla is queer. But then firefox froze up and x'd out. Everything is GONE. GONE!!! I feel so emo right now it's not even funny. It was SO GOOD would have gotten so many hits I bet..

So does anyone know if there's a way I can reopen the session? I DID manage to find the bug logged in in some document that says

This configuration for the debug log can be re-created
by putting the following in ~/nautilus-debug-log.conf
(use ';' to separate domain names):

But I have no idea what to do now. Please tell me someone can help and I didn't just fail the worst that I probably ever did.
I think I might just throw my computer out the window. I am being literal and serious. I am THAT pissed off [plus no computer = no failing this bad ever again].

I can only pray I am being overdramatic and that for computer wizzes there is a simple solution that is practically laughable.
 
Old 06-11-2008, 09:22 PM   #2
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If it dumped core, you may be able to recover memory from when the crash occurred. If you are not configured for coredumps on segfaults, then your out of luck (AFAICS).
 
Old 06-11-2008, 09:59 PM   #3
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What are coredumps? [yes i'm a megan00b].
 
Old 06-12-2008, 09:37 PM   #4
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What are coredumps? [yes i'm a megan00b].
Here is a definition. The important thing is that if you have a file named “core” or “core.#####” in the directory where you started the program, you will be able to see the entire state of the program prior to the crash. This includes any text you were typing in a form. In fact, that text most likely resides as plain text in a contiguous region of memory, so a simple:
Code:
strings core
might get you what you want. Otherwise, you (or someone more experienced) can examine a core file with a debugger to get what you’re after.

On a side note, I thought firefox will reopen where it left off in the event of a crash. In this case, perhaps there is some sort of firefox-specific file similar to a coredump stored in your ~/.mozilla directory.
 
Old 06-12-2008, 09:48 PM   #5
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In this case, perhaps there is some sort of firefox-specific file similar to a coredump stored in your ~/.mozilla directory.
In fact I just tried it (firefox-3.0rc2) and I the file is:
Code:
~/.mozilla/firefox/#######.default/sessionstore.js
I was able to recover text that was being typed into a form on LQ. This file seems to be updated live, so if you have not restarted firefox since the crash, you should find your form data there.
 
Old 06-12-2008, 09:59 PM   #6
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You are a brave man. I would never work for hours on a document using a program that can potentially crash every 5 minutes. It's like playing the russian roulette on a 6-rounds chamber revolvers which is holding 5 bullets.

Next time, use an external editor (that will shorten the time you need to edit the document, for sure) and then copy/paste it.
 
Old 06-13-2008, 07:50 AM   #7
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You are a brave man. I would never work for hours on a document using a program that can potentially crash every 5 minutes. It's like playing the russian roulette on a 6-rounds chamber revolvers which is holding 5 bullets.

Next time, use an external editor (that will shorten the time you need to edit the document, for sure) and then copy/paste it.
Uh.. I'm a woman. ._. And I will.
But you guys are all kind of starting to lose me, I did the

strings core

thing and got

strings: 'core': No such file

;_; Is that bad?

As for the other stuff.. would

~/nautilus-debug-log.conf

be what you're talking about? Because I'm still kind of new to terminals and I'm not sure if I'm typing it in correct or not. It said before

(use ';' to separate domain names):

Sadly it doesn't really click in my head what a domain name is exactly...
 
Old 06-13-2008, 08:10 AM   #8
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On most systems I've logged into in the past 5 years, the default is not to do a core dump. This is probably because most people wouldn't have a clue what to do with it (or that it was even there). However, some programs do write the occasional temporary files as you work. Now if such a file were written to the /tmp/ directory it's probably lost (usually cleared on reboot). Some, like 'vi' write a file and add a special character, or even write an "invisible" file (begins with '.').

I would also look into osor's suggestion.

The only other thing I can suggest goes something like this:

cd
fgrep -n -r "some string you expect to find in whatever you typed" *

Actually, the string should be pretty short but somewhat unique. You may have to try a few that you can remember. For example, "quick brown fox" would be located if a file looked something like this:

The quick brown fox was really a dyed blonde.

But not if the line was broken up something like this:

The quick
brown fox was really ...

The 'fgrep' trick can take a while ... possibly a very long while. But if it finds your magic phrase, you'll know what file might be holding the information you want. And if you've tried a few things and nothing turns up - then there's a good chance that there is nothing to be recovered.

Last edited by pinniped; 06-13-2008 at 08:11 AM.
 
Old 06-13-2008, 10:58 AM   #9
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I did the

strings core

thing and got

strings: 'core': No such file

;_; Is that bad?
Not necessarily, but it most likely means that you have no coredump. As I said before, coredumps are ususally named core or core.###### where the #’s just some numbers (representing the ID of the process which crashed). The file, if it exists, will be located in the current directory of the process which crashed (most likely your home directory). So if you don’t see such a file, it just means you didn’t get a coredump.
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As for the other stuff.. would

~/nautilus-debug-log.conf

be what you're talking about?
Perhaps this would contain some valuable information. Would you post the contents of that file.

I also mentioned the file that is specific to firefox called sessionstore.js. It is located in a “hidden” directory in your home folder. To get to it, open up a shell and type:
Code:
cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/
(notice the dot before the m.)

Now, if you do an “ls” in the folder, you might see a file named sessionstore.js. If not, then you are out of luck. But if so, you can read all the form data of your previous session, even if there was a crash.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pinniped View Post
cd
fgrep -n -r "some string you expect to find in whatever you typed" *
In fact, in firefox’s session file, there are no linebreaks, but spaces (and other characters) are replaced by their http-equivalent representation.

For example, here is an excerpt from the file for my current session:
Code:
text:"#vB_Editor_001_textarea=%5BQUOTE=InfinitePalindrome;3183597%5DI%20did%20the%20%0A%0Astrings%20core%0A%0Athing%20and%20got%20%0A%0Astrings:%20'core':%20No%20such%20file%0A%0A;_;%20Is%20that%20bad?%5B/QUOTE%5D%0ANot%20necessarily,%20but%20it%20most%20likely%20means%20that%20you%20have%20no%20coredump.%20As%20I%20said%20before,%20coredumps%20are%20ususally%20named%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dcore%5B/FONT%5D%20or%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dcore.######%5B/FONT%5D%20where%20the%20#%E2%80%99s%20just%20some%20numbers%20(representing%20the%20ID%20of%20the%20process%20which%20crashed).%20The%20file,%20if%20it%20exists,%20will%20be%20located%20in%20the%20current%20directory%20of%20the%20process%20which%20crashed%20(most%20likely%20your%20home%20directory).%20So%20if%20you%20don%E2%80%99t%20see%20such%20a%20file,%20it%20just%20means%20you%20didn%E2%80%99t%20get%20a%20coredump.%0A%5BQUOTE=InfinitePalindrome;3183597%5D%0AAs%20for%20the%20other%20stuff..%20would%20%0A%0A~/nautilus-debug-log.conf%0A%0Abe%20what%20you're%20talking%20about?%5B/QUOTE%5D%0APerhaps%20this%20would%20contain%20some%20valuable%20information.%20Would%20you%20post%20the%20contents%20of%20that%20file.%0A%0AI%20also%20mentioned%20the%20file%20that%20is%20specific%20to%20firefox%20called%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dsessionstore.js%5B/FONT%5D.%20It%20is%20located%20in%20a%20%E2%80%9Chidden%E2%80%9D%20directory%20in%20your%20home%20folder.%20To%20get%20to%20it,%20open%20up%20a%20shell%20and%20type:%0A%5BCODE%5D%0Acd%20~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/%0A%5B/CODE%5D%0A(notice%20the%20dot%20before%20the%20m.)%0A%0ANow,%20if%20you%20do%20an%20%E2%80%9Cls%E2%80%9D%20in%20the%20folder,%20you%20might%20see%20a%20file%20named%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dsessionstore.js%5B/FONT%5D.%20If%20not,%20then%20you%20are%20out%20of%20luck.%20But%20if%20so,%20you%20can%20read%20all%20the%20form%20data%20of%20your%20previous%20session,%20even%20if%20there%20was%20a%20crash.%0A%0A%5BQUOTE=pinniped;3183611%5D%0Acd%0Afgrep%20-n%20-r%20%22some%20string%20you%20expect%20to%20find%20in%20whatever%20you%20typed%22%20*%5B/QUOTE%5DIn%20fact,%20in%20firefox%E2%80%99s%20session%20file,%20there%20are%20no%20linebreaks,%20but%20spaces%20(and%20other%20characters)%20are%20replaced%20by%20their%20http-equivalent%20representation.%0A%0AFor%20example,%20here%20is%20an%20excerpt%20from%20the%20file%20for%20my%20current%20session:%0A
 
Old 06-13-2008, 11:02 AM   #10
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Ok, thanks.
 
Old 06-13-2008, 11:06 AM   #11
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Not necessarily, but it most likely means that you have no coredump. As I said before, coredumps are ususally named core or core.###### where the #’s just some numbers (representing the ID of the process which crashed). The file, if it exists, will be located in the current directory of the process which crashed (most likely your home directory). So if you don’t see such a file, it just means you didn’t get a coredump.

Perhaps this would contain some valuable information. Would you post the contents of that file.

I also mentioned the file that is specific to firefox called sessionstore.js. It is located in a “hidden” directory in your home folder. To get to it, open up a shell and type:
Code:
cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/
(notice the dot before the m.)

Now, if you do an “ls” in the folder, you might see a file named sessionstore.js. If not, then you are out of luck. But if so, you can read all the form data of your previous session, even if there was a crash.

In fact, in firefox’s session file, there are no linebreaks, but spaces (and other characters) are replaced by their http-equivalent representation.

For example, here is an excerpt from the file for my current session:
Code:
text:"#vB_Editor_001_textarea=%5BQUOTE=InfinitePalindrome;3183597%5DI%20did%20the%20%0A%0Astrings%20core%0A%0Athing%20and%20got%20%0A%0Astrings:%20'core':%20No%20such%20file%0A%0A;_;%20Is%20that%20bad?%5B/QUOTE%5D%0ANot%20necessarily,%20but%20it%20most%20likely%20means%20that%20you%20have%20no%20coredump.%20As%20I%20said%20before,%20coredumps%20are%20ususally%20named%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dcore%5B/FONT%5D%20or%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dcore.######%5B/FONT%5D%20where%20the%20#%E2%80%99s%20just%20some%20numbers%20(representing%20the%20ID%20of%20the%20process%20which%20crashed).%20The%20file,%20if%20it%20exists,%20will%20be%20located%20in%20the%20current%20directory%20of%20the%20process%20which%20crashed%20(most%20likely%20your%20home%20directory).%20So%20if%20you%20don%E2%80%99t%20see%20such%20a%20file,%20it%20just%20means%20you%20didn%E2%80%99t%20get%20a%20coredump.%0A%5BQUOTE=InfinitePalindrome;3183597%5D%0AAs%20for%20the%20other%20stuff..%20would%20%0A%0A~/nautilus-debug-log.conf%0A%0Abe%20what%20you're%20talking%20about?%5B/QUOTE%5D%0APerhaps%20this%20would%20contain%20some%20valuable%20information.%20Would%20you%20post%20the%20contents%20of%20that%20file.%0A%0AI%20also%20mentioned%20the%20file%20that%20is%20specific%20to%20firefox%20called%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dsessionstore.js%5B/FONT%5D.%20It%20is%20located%20in%20a%20%E2%80%9Chidden%E2%80%9D%20directory%20in%20your%20home%20folder.%20To%20get%20to%20it,%20open%20up%20a%20shell%20and%20type:%0A%5BCODE%5D%0Acd%20~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/%0A%5B/CODE%5D%0A(notice%20the%20dot%20before%20the%20m.)%0A%0ANow,%20if%20you%20do%20an%20%E2%80%9Cls%E2%80%9D%20in%20the%20folder,%20you%20might%20see%20a%20file%20named%20%5BFONT=%22monospace%22%5Dsessionstore.js%5B/FONT%5D.%20If%20not,%20then%20you%20are%20out%20of%20luck.%20But%20if%20so,%20you%20can%20read%20all%20the%20form%20data%20of%20your%20previous%20session,%20even%20if%20there%20was%20a%20crash.%0A%0A%5BQUOTE=pinniped;3183611%5D%0Acd%0Afgrep%20-n%20-r%20%22some%20string%20you%20expect%20to%20find%20in%20whatever%20you%20typed%22%20*%5B/QUOTE%5DIn%20fact,%20in%20firefox%E2%80%99s%20session%20file,%20there%20are%20no%20linebreaks,%20but%20spaces%20(and%20other%20characters)%20are%20replaced%20by%20their%20http-equivalent%20representation.%0A%0AFor%20example,%20here%20is%20an%20excerpt%20from%20the%20file%20for%20my%20current%20session:%0A
I got

~/.mozilla/firefox/gml5znvq.default>

after typing cd ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default
I'm not sure what you mean about "ls", though.
 
Old 06-13-2008, 11:10 AM   #12
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OH! I was reading it as Is not ls. I got-

AutoSaveText
AutoSaveText\AutoRestoreData-httpwikipediaorg.txt
AutoSaveText\AutoRestoreData-httpwwwlinuxquestionsorgquestionsnewreplyphp.txt
AutoSaveText\AutoRestoreData-httpwwwnewgroundscom.txt
AutoSaveText\AutoRestoreData-httpwwwteenspotcomboardsnewreplyhtml.txt
AutoSaveText\AutoRestoreData-httpwwwteenspotcomboardsnewthreadhtml.txt
AutoSaveText\AutoRestoreData-httpwwwurbandictionarycomdefinephp.txt
AutoSaveText\AutoRestoreData-httpwwwurbandictionarycom.txt
blocklist.xml
bookmarkbackups
bookmarks.bak
bookmarks.html
Cache
cert8.db
chrome
compatibility.ini
compreg.dat
cookies.txt
downloads.rdf
extensions
extensions.cache
extensions.ini
extensions.rdf
formhistory.dat
history.dat
hostperm.1
install.log
key3.db
localstore.rdf
lock
mimeTypes.rdf
prefs.js
search.rdf
search.sqlite
secmod.db
sessionstore.js
signons2.txt
urlclassifier2.sqlite
XPC.mfasl
xpti.dat
XUL.mfasl

But the autosave I just downloaded on firefox today after someone suggested it.

And here, since you wanted me to post-

0x8175a88 2008/06/13 11:22:35.4252 (USER): debug log dumped due to signal 11
===== END MILESTONES =====
===== BEGIN RING BUFFER =====
0x8175a88 2008/06/13 08:48:00.8627 (desktop-links): Initializing desktop link monitor
0x8175a88 2008/06/13 08:48:01.5005 (desktop-links): Desktop link desktop/home_icon_visible is enabled
0x8175a88 2008/06/13 08:48:01.5673 (desktop-links): Desktop link desktop/computer_icon_visible is disabled
0x8175a88 2008/06/13 08:48:01.5773 (desktop-links): Desktop link desktop/trash_icon_visible is enabled
0x8175a88 2008/06/13 08:48:01.7412 (desktop-links): Desktop link desktop/network_icon_visible is disabled
0x8175a88 2008/06/13 08:48:01.7412 (drives-volumes): Refreshing drive and volume links

Thta's just some of it.
 
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OH! I was reading it as Is not ls. I got-

<SNIP>
sessionstore.js
<SNIP>
Yes, and what are the contents of that file??? Try
Code:
cat ~/.mozilla/firefox/gml5znvq.default/sessionstore.js
Also, it seems that you have restarted firefox since the initial crash occurred. In this case, the original form information will have been overwritten! I thought I had previously said (but I guess not) that you should avoid starting up firefox after the crash (and use a different browser temporarily).
 
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Yes, and what are the contents of that file??? Try
Code:
cat ~/.mozilla/firefox/gml5znvq.default/sessionstore.js
Also, it seems that you have restarted firefox since the initial crash occurred. In this case, the original form information will have been overwritten! I thought I had previously said (but I guess not) that you should avoid starting up firefox after the crash (and use a different browser temporarily).
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......now what?
Also it was my first intention to not restart the browser and keep the old crashed one open for a while, but I only have firefox atm and it's also already been a couple days and i can't leave my computer on standby for that long.
 
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......now what?
Also it was my first intention to not restart the browser and keep the old crashed one open for a while, but I only have firefox atm and it's also already been a couple days and i can't leave my computer on standby for that long.
Now, I guess you can’t recover the information (sorry). Next time (if there is a next time), do not start the browser again if you want to get the information. Also, if you leave a “hanged” application running, there are other ways to get data from them (e.g., attach the process to a debugger).

If you want to browse the web, you can (through your package manager) download an alternate browser without opening your primary browser. This can be any of seamonkey, konqueror, epiphany, opera, etc.

So all I can say is sorry, but at least you know what to do next time (if there is a next time).
 
  


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