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Old 05-24-2003, 01:00 AM   #1
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Come on, no killer CD app for Linux? Hello?


I am using REDHAT 9

I've recently installed a Verbatin 52x24x52x IDE cdrw drive in my system. I now have 2 cd drives. One is the Verbatim, the other an old Toshiba cd-rom. I have Verbatim set as master and old Toshiba set as slave, both on same cable which is independent of Hard Drive cable.

I can throw a music cd in either drive and listen to tracks no worries.

But when I try to use the program labeled "CD Writer" from the system tools menu which looks like the actual program name is GnomeToaster 1.0Beta6

Anyway, when I go to preferences and then go to cd writer setup, it cannot find the device unless I add it manually, and it still doesn't work.

So, I decided to go ahead and run the command: cdrecord -scanbus from a terminal window.

Well, it can't find anything, here is the error message I get when I issue the command:

[root@localhost root]# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 2.0 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jrg Schilling
cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
cdrecord: For possible targets try 'cdrecord -scanbus'. Make sure you are root.
cdrecord: For possible transport specifiers try 'cdrecord dev=help'.
[root@localhost root]#

Can you please tell me what I am doing wrong? I've read all kinds of noise about modifying various config files in GRUB, but what do I need to do here?

Thanks in advance.

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Old 05-24-2003, 01:29 AM   #2
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Linux blows.
 
Old 05-24-2003, 02:17 AM   #3
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you need to add hdc=ide-scsi to your boot loader.
 
Old 05-24-2003, 01:30 PM   #4
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RedHat 9 cd burner configuration

Allright, linux is allright.

It needs some work though.

I mean seriously, what kind of Company, I.E. RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake actually ships a product in 2003 without CD/RW auto recognition and configuration.

I mean come on! Do they seriously want everyone to start re-installing Windows 98? That's right I said WINDOWS 98. It was recognizing and installing CDRWs back in 1998, let's see that was..... 5 count em, 5 years ago.

Anyways, for my own situation... well, I had already modified my grub.conf file which by the way is a "hidden" file so unless you're a pro like myself you'd have no idea how to even find the stupid file.

Needless to say, I had modified it for the NON-SMP version of the Kernel, which I never, ever run since I have 2 P2 266 on a Tyan Tiger 2 S1692DL with 512MB RAM, a 21" Dell Monitor and Cmedia Audio. Let's not even start talking about my Lexmark Z11.

It will actually print under Mandrake 9, but not anything graphical, and with text it's slower than my old Apple IIe printer.

Under RedHat 9..... Ha ha ha ha ha! Printing? What's that? How does that work? It won't print under RedHat 9. The only thing I can up with at this point is the fact that maybe I'm not using a good enough cable... maybe that explains the reason for the graphics problems in Mandrake. Better yet, maybe the Free Lexmark Z11 driver just blows overall.

Either way, if Lexmark wants to ever get my business again, they better anty up and start providing Linux drivers ASAP, otherwise HELLO HP, or Epson, since it's like the Linux Junkie's Printing Choice.

Anyways, back to the bootloader, GRUB.... I modified the right version of the kernel this time the SMP version and sure enough, full recognition in the CD Writer.

Problem is I still have to figure out how to actually make the software understand an ISO image since it doesn't prompt me for jack.

I mean give me a break. You can't prompt me when you see an .iso file selected? What is this, the movie "Caveman?"

All in all, Linux is fun right now... Lots of buzz....

I like that.

I don't like the fact that there's quite a bit of work to do just to get the base OS up to Windows Competition Standards.

Any thoughts on my Lexmark Z11 please let me know. By the way, I've played with all of the setting in the printer manager in RedHat 9.

Thanks for the quick responses, but you're going to need to be a little more detailed in the future.

Bye.
 
Old 05-24-2003, 04:47 PM   #5
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i started typing out what you need to do, then i saw
the "linux blows" and i stopped.
most distributions do pick up the cdburner on install,
except the do it yourself ones.
 
Old 05-24-2003, 09:15 PM   #6
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I just nuked RedHat... Forget them... The free trial only lasts a couple of months anyways....

Just finished updating all of my red carpet packages and am now running version 1.4 of Ximian Evolution on you guessed it, Mandrake 9.1 with full updates.... Runs smooth, hasn't crashed yet....

Also, I'd really love to install Debian, if I can figure out these pesky cd burning programs....

You know, Nero outta start producing for Linux. I mean seriously, I would have figured all you linux freaks out there would demand for the most killer power packed GUI, WYSIWYG CD burning program on the face of the planet.... But, hey, what do I know....

Same with the music scene.
 
Old 05-26-2003, 10:38 AM   #7
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newlinuxjunkie, I understand your opinions are strong, but they are offensive for some people. Next time try to write them another way.
 
Old 05-26-2003, 12:24 PM   #8
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I was being sarcastic. Sorry if you took it personally.
 
Old 08-05-2003, 03:59 PM   #9
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Your comments are reasonably correct.

There are indeed useability problems with CD and DVD writers under linux.

There are problems on all versions of windows as well.

The problems in linux are:
1) very little direct ATAPI support compatible with cdrecord. It appears that the BSDs do a better job here.
2) the idiosyncratic behaviour of the ide-cd and ide-scsi drivers. This is open source, so if you don't like it you are supposed to fix it (or pay someone else to fix it if you lack skillz). The drivers have been improving for some time, but they still need work.
3) lack of support at the kernel level. Again, this is open source - if you don't like it, you either submit a patch to the appropriate maintainer, or whine to the kernel developers until they do something to make you shut up (which may not be what you expect).
4) traditional unix biases - for example, version numbers are considered unnecessary or even evil because VMS implemented them very successfully, and most *nix gurus have irrational religious objections to everything VMS.

The problems in windows are:
1) no real ISO compatibility - all Microsoft implementations are broken in one way or another. This is less of a problem than it would appear, because everyone else (including OSS) is forced to support the MS errors.
2) disregard for all other standards - Joliet was unneccessary, for example. Same caveat as above.
3) no burning software ships with windows, one must purchase expensive add-on software or use cheap crap like Nero that comes with hardware purchases.
4) traditional windows biases - for example, compatibility does not matter, because everyone will eventually be running windows anyway.

Now, despite these shortcomings, one can (using one's brain and willpower) configure either OS to burn CDs. The difference is that a *nix system can create and read nearly every type of CD imaginable. Windows can make the simple music or data CDs that joe end-user desires, if you buy the right third-party software.

A linux system can create a single CD that appears the same to Mac, HP-UX, Windows, VMS, and DOS systems (with the caveat that the DOS system sees only 8.3 filenames, and the Rock Ridge translation tables are visible as files under DOS). You can create "odd-ball" CDs like San Mehat's "Sounds of Slashdot" (which is a bootable debian install on the first track and techno music over the rest of the disk). You can even remove or override bogus or harmful copy protections like CloQ and friends, although I don't personally recommend such activity.

If what you need is a play-dough kit, then windows is appropriate, but if you need a toolbox suitable for a master sculptor, you are going to have to do some studying before you will be able to use it properly.

If you still want to do this, go to this page: http://www.fokus.fhg.de/research/cc/...ivate/cdr.html to begin your research. Note that the author of cdrecord, Joerg Schilling, does not provide free tech support (come to think of it, though, neither does Microsoft ).
 
Old 08-05-2003, 04:31 PM   #10
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"The free trial only lasts a couple of months anyways"

Isn't Redhat free? Just wondering
 
Old 08-05-2003, 07:38 PM   #11
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Cafrow:
If you plan on using the RedHat Network and Up2Date, you are only allowed one demo account. It does expire unless you fill out a small survey, if you do, your membership is renewed.
Here are two alternatives:

RedCarpet
http://www.ximian.com/products/redcarpet/

Apt4RPM
http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/


newlinuxjunkie:
I recently switched from RedHat 7.3 to 9 and I agree, RedHat is going down hill. There are a few problems and annoyances with this release that I am still trying to fix.

If you want an easy distribution, use Mandrake or SuSe.
 
Old 08-05-2003, 08:02 PM   #12
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Thanks for that Info, I am not planning on staying with RH9 to long. I want to switch to Debian soon, seems most of the PROs are either running Debian or Slackware.
 
Old 08-06-2003, 01:04 AM   #13
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I had a lot of info to add to this thread, but like some others, seeing certain things written (even if meant as a joke) suddenly left me not wanting to add much.
Yes I can take a joke, but why waste the time with such statements? Sometimes I wonder if people put as much effort into actually troubleshooting or exploring options rather than make unnecessary comments, if they would even be posting in the first place.
 
Old 09-03-2003, 12:23 PM   #14
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u make following changes in /boot/grub/grub.conf
edit grub.conf and to the line
kernel /vmlinuz-xx ro root=/LABEL =/
add
hdc =ide-scsi
note: if u are using hdc change accordingly.
 
  


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