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Old 09-16-2023, 08:14 AM   #16
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Probably a GitHub bug - there's some unnecessary JavaScript which (if it works) loads //github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases/expanded_assets/v1.0.95 and on that page, there's the actual ventoy-1.0.95-linux.tar.gz link (19 MB).
I remember when javascript first came out, I was very much against it. Sure enough, people began 'breaking' HTML by putting js only links in their pages, and it worsened from there. At some point later on, I decide to use a very small js in my webpages, and guess what? Not too long after that, the js I used was broken due to a change in the js language. Now, it looks like js is one of the primary movers of malware. Ordinary internet users can do almost nothing to stop 2nd, 3rd, or 4th parties from abusing them on-line. Many sites will not even allow visitors who do not have js enabled. So it is almost like people are being held hostage.

I remember when CSS first came out too, but that makes more sense - to me anyway.

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Old 09-16-2023, 08:22 AM   #17
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Please go back to Windows.
Linux is not for you.
And you know that.
There is no going back to Windows for me. I will not pay for spyware anymore. And I can no longer accept behavior being enforced upon me.

I just want something that works properly and efficiently.

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Old 09-16-2023, 08:30 AM   #18
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Could you name the settings you need to adjust please
Could you list which apps you'd like to see in Mint

Personally I find I can do all the things I did in Windows - but of course that won't help you.
p { margin-bottom: 7pt; line-height: 115%; background: transparent none repeat scroll 0% 0%; }strong { font-weight: bold; } I have gparted my internal disk drive 3 or 4 times and ran all the hardware checks I could find. No hardware problems reported.

The ROX window that pops up is too small and I always have to enlarge it.

The highlighting in the file manager is too dark and prevents me from reading what is highlighted.

The little marker which is used to "grab" the side of a window is too small and has an active space that is too narrow, and it makes it difficilt to grab the edge (I think it should be 3 pixels wider).

The icons on the top menu are placed in the wrong order, for my use, and the icons are cut off unless I stretch the window to giant size. I have found no way to fix it.
https://i.postimg.cc/v4KxNTX2/Basic-...oblems-txt.jpg

The path at the top of the file menus are blackened out so I can't read them.
https://i.postimg.cc/njgbCHST/Partition-1-2.png

The drive letters keep incrementing for no apparent reason, and seems to happen whenever I plug something in or out of a USB port. For example, I just unplugged my sda1 drive, and when I plugged it back in it changed to sdc1.What!? I unplugged my USB hub and plugged it back in, and now.all the USB driveshave shifted their drive letters!? Not only that, but my keyboard language setting was revoked!? I went into the mouse/keyboard wizard and it shows the correct setting. I clicked on Ok and the chosen setting returned! I use a USB keyboard, but I do not understand why unplugging and replugging my keyboard would affect my keyboard setting in the OS!? Additionally, my internet connection (I connect through a USB ethernet card) stopped!? So I had to go into the network wizard and re-establish my internet connection.

This also means when I use Audacity, my recent files list is often automatically deleted when I start the program. Similar problem with Libreoffice, almost every time I start the program, it asks me if I want to recover previously used files. In most cases this is because the drive letter has changed and Libreoffice thinks it should try to recover it. I always cancel these recovery requests, but it is an annoyance. And my recent file list in Libreoffice gets deleted: not all at once like in Audacity, but one at a time.

I couldn't find a way to input a path in ROX, so when I want to copy a file from one drive to another, I have to first use Pmount to find out which drive I need to go to (drive letters are apparently self-incrementing), and then I must manually go through all the folders, and subfolders, until I find the source folder that contains the desired file. For example:

/mnt/sda1/Folder1/Folder2/Folder3/Folder4/Folder5/Folder6/File1

And then I must repeat the process to find the destination folder: again I have to first use Pmount to find out which drive I need to go to, Manually go through all the folders, and subfolders until I find the destination folder.

/mnt/sdr1/Folder1/Folder2/Folder3/Folder4/Folder5/Folder6/File1

And if it is a group copy, how do I know if the destination files are overwritten or the copy is skipped?

Some settings don't stick, for example, keyboard and mouse settings are lost periodically. The mouse settings are almost non-existent. I see only acceleration and threshold, and any changes I make there do not stick at all, so it is useless.

I can't find a usable search function in the ROX file manager, and I have never experienced any OS that is so mouse intensive. My right forearm is in constant spasm due to excesive mouse use. If I boot and the mouse does not work, I just have to keep booting until it does.

Can someone tell me the name and location of the Puppy configuration files?

I would like to know the names of my settings files and where they are located so I can save them to a non OS drive and copy them back again so I won't have to re-configure my settings all over again, when I can install the OS to my HDD. reboot. I am running a RAM only bootup now, but hope to make a regular installation on my HDD at some point, and I'd like to avoid re-configuring all the settings.

I would like to save various settings such as: screen, language, time zone, keyboard, ROX options, menu items, bookmarks, etc.

If I can save the configuration files to a non OS drive, I can reinstall the OS if needed, and copy the configuration files to their original location and overwrite the default settings . Seems like it ought to be simple and straight forward. Anyone?

Thanks!
 
Old 09-16-2023, 10:40 AM   #19
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Some of your problems seem explicable.

You say the usb device changes its ID when you unplug it and plug it in again. Did you unmount it, or just pull it out? If the latter, then as far as the OS is concerned it's still there and you've plugged in a new one.

You say that the keyboard setting changes when you unplug it and then reconnect. Naturally! Setting up a keyboard is done in two stages. First, at boot up, when the keyboard is located and its hardware identified (ISO PC, ANSI PC, Mac, whatever). Then, at log-in, when your configuration files are read and the correct language and other features are determined. If you unplug and reconnect, I suspect that the configuration files may not get read and you will get the distro default.

You tried over 20 distros (including several very good ones) and were unhappy with all of them. That suggests that either there's a problem with your hardware or a problem with you. Under those circumstances, it's difficult to make any suggestions.
 
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Old 09-16-2023, 12:05 PM   #20
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I did not find the ventoy download. I looked here:
https://www.ventoy.net/en/download.html
When I clicked on "ventoy-1.0.95-linux.tar.gz" I went to a release page, but I did not find the download.
Thanks!
Try https://github.com/ventoy/Ventoy/releases
 
Old 09-16-2023, 12:09 PM   #21
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Before I chose fosapup, I looked briefly at:
Blackarch, Heads, Kodachi, Mint, Nitrux, Parrot, Peppermint, Qubes, Solus, SuperX, Tails, Xubuntu, Zorin, Alpine, Antix, Arch, Artix, Calculate, Carbs, Devuan, Dragora, Garuda, GNU Guix System, Knoppix,
Manjaro, PcLinuxOS, Puppy (various versions), Redcore.

Either I was not able to get them to work at all, or they had a terrible GUI interface and/or few included programs, or few configuration possibilities. I don't want commercialized distros or systemd.

Thanks!
Some of those are live only distributions. I have tried ALL of them (except Redcore) and they all work just fine, it is easy to change settings, for most it is easy to change desktop environments, and I am running Manjaro RIGHT NOW.

IF that list did not satisfy you, then you are looking for something extremely out of the ordinary and you have not made clear what that might be.

UPDATE: I begin to understand after reading you most recent comment. I agree with David: some of these problems are misuse of the hardware, but the rest is either odd hardware or user error.

In most distributions it is easy to change the DE to one that fits you better. IT is also easy to change themes to one that has wider controls and different color schemes, or to create your own. The panel is just a program, and you can add, delete, or reorder entries in most and it is easy to replace the one you have with one that is more to your liking. These things involving the desktop can all be solved.

The problems connecting and disconnecting hardware is easy to solve, STOP that!

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Old 09-16-2023, 12:37 PM   #22
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What you refer to as 'drive letters' (such as sda, sdb, sdc) change. If you have an internal drive which shows as sda and insert a USB, it should show as sdb. If you insert a second USB, it should show as sdc. When you attach external drives (including a USB) you need to unmount and/or safely remove it. If you remove both sdb and sdc as in the above example, and then attach what was sdc, it will show as sdb. Linux detects drives in the order it sees them. If you remove drives such as a USB and then replace it and put it on another port it will like change the device name. This is one of the primary reasons for the use of UUIDs which are specific to a specific hard drive and or partition. You might read up on Linux device/partition naming conventions.

I've never used Puppy so someone with experience can probably speak to your other problems.

Mint is generally viewed as easy for former windows users. Another option is Zorin which is also an Ubuntu derivative.
 
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Old 09-16-2023, 01:01 PM   #23
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What you refer to as 'drive letters' (such as sda, sdb, sdc) change. If you have an internal drive which shows as sda and insert a USB, it should show as sdb. If you insert a second USB, it should show as sdc. When you attach external drives (including a USB) you need to unmount and/or safely remove it. If you remove both sdb and sdc as in the above example, and then attach what was sdc, it will show as sdb. Linux detects drives in the order it sees them. If you remove drives such as a USB and then replace it and put it on another port it will like change the device name. This is one of the primary reasons for the use of UUIDs which are specific to a specific hard drive and or partition. You might read up on Linux device/partition naming conventions.

I've never used Puppy so someone with experience can probably speak to your other problems.

Mint is generally viewed as easy for former windows users. Another option is Zorin which is also an Ubuntu derivative.
I always unmount a USB drive before removing it.
 
Old 09-16-2023, 01:05 PM   #24
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What you refer to as 'drive letters' (such as sda, sdb, sdc) change. If you have an internal drive which shows as sda and insert a USB, it should show as sdb. If you insert a second USB, it should show as sdc. When you attach external drives (including a USB) you need to unmount and/or safely remove it. If you remove both sdb and sdc as in the above example, and then attach what was sdc, it will show as sdb. Linux detects drives in the order it sees them. If you remove drives such as a USB and then replace it and put it on another port it will like change the device name. This is one of the primary reasons for the use of UUIDs which are specific to a specific hard drive and or partition. You might read up on Linux device/partition naming conventions.

I've never used Puppy so someone with experience can probably speak to your other problems.

Mint is generally viewed as easy for former windows users. Another option is Zorin which is also an Ubuntu derivative.
Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of study is involved.
If your machine has more than one SATA, SCSI or IDE disk controller, the order in which their corresponding device nodes are added is arbitrary. This may result in device names like /dev/sda and /dev/sdb switching around on each boot, culminating in an unbootable system, kernel panic, or a block device disappearing. Persistent naming solves these issues.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Per..._device_naming
 
Old 09-16-2023, 03:33 PM   #25
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You cannot "fix" the device path (/dev/sda) for a removable device, that is not how udev works.
You MIGHT be able to add a "label" to the file systems on the device so that they always mount to the same place using an entry in /etc/fstab. (Make sure it does not try to mount on startup, you want the option to mount at need or access.)
If you do that properly it MIGHT help with that issue that concerns you.
(You can use UUID entries the same way, but they are less intuitive to manage and easier to fat-finger.)

Anything like this is a work-around needed because no distribution (or the utilities under them) was ever created to assume the user would want to connect and disconnect required devices mid-session. That is not really a good idea for ANY operating system. We jumped through several hoops to make it so we could boot AND RUN from a removable device in the first place.

By comparison the issue involving screen size, colors, text, window edges, and all of that have been solved in multiple ways many times, and all mature desktop environments (not all of the early or minimal ones) include one or more such solutions.

BTW: Plasma is really quite small and fast since the rewrites. XFCE is good, and the others you mention are good but may not be as complete in terms of settings and solutions. GNOME was a space hog before it split, but the current GNOME is even worse: but it is complete and more mature than most. I prefer Plasma on Wayland with XWayland myself, but run Fluxbox where I do not need that maturity or solutions.

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Old 09-17-2023, 12:53 AM   #26
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on any Linux (like Mint*) you can usually install KDE e.g:
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KDE is developed based on Trolltech's Qt toolbox and can be run on most Linux operating systems. KDE provides a complete set of user workspace applications for interacting with operating systems through a modern, graphical user interface that includes the Plasma desktop, KDE's innovative desktop interface. Feb 15, 2023
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Also: 🐇 https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...8/#post6453521

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Old 09-17-2023, 02:28 AM   #27
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There is no going back to Windows for me. I will not pay for spyware anymore. And I can no longer accept behavior being enforced upon me.

I just want something that works properly and efficiently.

Thanks!
If your main problem is javascript, linux will not solve it at all. It works almost the same way on linux and windows. From the other hand if you want to have a stable and efficient linux computer you need to learn how can you manage it. Otherwise it will be just the same garbage.
 
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The comment you posted (post 24) from the Archlinux wiki is what I was referring to as to the use of UUIDs which is what they discuss, in addition to labels. Having the name of a device change (from sda to sdb for example) on reboot is something I've not see regardless of the type or number of drives attached by the simple act of rebooting. That's my experience but I'm sure the people who wrote the wiki have a lot more knowledge and experience in that area than I. The point is to avoid these situations, use UUIDs or Labels as suggested in the article.
 
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