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Old 06-04-2010, 03:56 PM   #1
jetgraphics
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AMD 780G conflict? help!


[Head thumping against wall flag on]

Attempts at installing 64 bit versions of Linux have met with failure / bugs / frustration.

One machine - AMD Athlon 64 X2, BIOSTAR TFORCE TA780G, 4 GB DDR2 RAM, AMIBIOS: V02.61 - would only load 32 bit PCLINUXOS.
Bad / buggy 64 bit installations:
Fedora 12 (after install, crash, blank screen)
Mandriva 2009.1 (flaky KDE4)
Ubuntu 9.10
Kubuntu 9.10
Bad / Buggy 32 bit:
Fedora 12

Other machine - AMD Phenom 9600, ASROCK A780GMH/128M, 4 GB DDR2 RAM, Radeon HD 2600 XT
Bad / Failed 64 bit installations:
Ubuntu Server 10.4 (After complete install, and reboot, blank screen diplay - warning message "no signal")
Mandriva 2010.1 (Could not get Samba working, nor load driver for HD 2600XT)

Has anyone else experienced success / problem with AMD 780G chipsets?

My current goal:
Install a SERVER version of 64 bit LINUX (Don't care which distro), and host virtual OS (other distros, Win XP).

TIA!
 
Old 06-06-2010, 05:09 AM   #2
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I can't really answer your question, but I may be able to give you a pointer:

The AMD 780G chipset includes embedded AMD (nee ATI) graphics. You will therefore have the same issue with the graphics part of the chipset as you would if you had a discrete AMD/ATI graphics card of a similar specification and needing similar drivers.

The issue with all of these more capable graphics cards is that there are either no fully-capable open source drivers or the open source drivers are a little bit primitive compared to the closed source ones.

This gives the distros a bit of a tough decision; includes (as a default???) drivers that may be a bit rough around the edges, but are free? Include proprietary drivers that are not free (as in free), not debuggable and possibly not available in 64 bit form (if the supplier of the blob supplies a 64 bit blob, then fine, otherwise no)? Or just a 'lowest common denominator' driver that really doesn't take full advantage of the hardware and will not satisfy many people?

For any particular distro, there is probably a repo that has some extra, not-really-free-as-in-free software, that includes drivers for graphics chipsets. If you enable that, grab the drivers from the repo, you should have a good chance of progressing, but the procedure will vary from distro to distro. Which distro were you most interested in trying?

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Install a SERVER version of 64 bit LINUX (Don't care which distro),
And, btw, the traditional (proper!) version of a server install wouldn't include any GUI, so this wouldn't be an issue....
 
Old 06-07-2010, 01:54 AM   #3
jetgraphics
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Update:
[] Ubuntu 10.4 LTS Desktop (64 bit) installed.
[] Attempt at installing AMD/ATI Linux drivers caused crash. Removed drivers. Ran fine.
[] Slowly debugging various aspects - SAMBA (won't share nice with XP partitions on dual boot system)
[] No clue as to why other distros / versions had so many problems.
 
Old 06-08-2010, 08:44 AM   #4
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OpenSuSE is reputed to have one of the best hardware recognition modules. You might want to give it a shot.
 
  


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