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Old 06-22-2003, 04:21 PM   #31
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I'm affraid that you just lost me somewhere towards the end of your last post.....
 
Old 06-22-2003, 04:27 PM   #32
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Ok then.

That string of numbers, 2.4.21-0.13mdk means something, it's the version of the kernel you're trying to boot. That's (the core of) linux.

WRT that lilo -v command, I wanted to know what errors lilo reports for you when trying to use such a mangled file, and I want to be sure you had backed up and then restored the working version after my little test.

The Linux_Compiled section looks redundant since you only just installed the system and are new to linux, and are using Mandrake.
 
Old 06-22-2003, 04:35 PM   #33
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Well O.k.... I just entered Lilo again... and edited some letter and put it back as it was so that the software would allow me to "Apply" and it didn't say anything any more... (strange.. it's almost the same thing I did last time)...

BTW the "p button" I was mentioning earlier was "Probe" and last time I pressed it the config file turned from the right one to the wrong one. The only conclusion I can formulate right now is that the windows2 thing was the guilty part.... (since it is the only different thing between the 2)

K... now I made a backup copy of the config file... but Proud I don't think I will run your test right now since Lilo seems not to mind the config like it is... Hope you understand my cautiousness (or however you spell that :P)
 
Old 06-22-2003, 04:52 PM   #34
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Well I could run it here but it seems to have a few typos in it so it wouldnt be valid. Np
You can edit /etc/lilo.conf as root and use that lilo -v command to change the config without using the MCC.
Try the lilo -v command and copy what it says. You can copy paste stuff easily enough in linux, just say if you're not sure how to.
 
Old 06-22-2003, 04:59 PM   #35
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No u c ... there is one single problem here.... 1 I cannot access lilo.conf because access is denied cause I am not root... how do I log on as root.. beats be completely.... (still haven't realised how to give the rights to users and stuff). That's why I'm just a little bit affraid of trying what you r saying... (I mean I caould start fiddling with those groups things although I have no idea what they mean untill I would find out what logging as root actually means)....
Hehe.. yeah I know I sound confused and I pretty much am... I expected Linux to be different than windows.. but not this different... I don't know more than half the stuff that this computer tells me... the only thing I understand is this thread So gimme a bit of time... I'll do everything after I do some reading....
 
Old 06-22-2003, 05:02 PM   #36
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Blimey... you've not been using root? Well I guess you've filled in the password when requested...
Try su - in a terminal/console (yes that's a hyphen in that command). You wont see the password characters echoed as *s when you type them but dont worry.
Now commands you run are as root.
To log in as root with a gui, you need to either use the KDE Control Centre to alter the Login Manager options, or use the MCC -> Hardware -> Display Manager to choose to use the KDM instead of the MdkDM to log in (You'll probably need to install kdm off the cds first).

Last edited by Proud; 06-22-2003 at 05:04 PM.
 
Old 06-22-2003, 05:11 PM   #37
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O.k.... I am now in the Control Center-->Login manager Do I just tick off the root user from the hidden user topic (users tab)?
 
Old 06-22-2003, 05:45 PM   #38
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Yeah, or only list selected users and invert the selections
Also check out the next tab, have the login system preselect your account name and just be waiting for the password.
Auto login is a very bad idea, as is remote logins unless you need them.
 
Old 06-22-2003, 05:56 PM   #39
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O.k.... Finally sorted that root business... I tried the console version first but it seemed not to really give about my continuous efforts for reading that config file....

And I suppose I will call this my second day of linux using (this time I go to sleep with it actually running not like last night) So I'll c you around when I actually try your cunning plan (probably tomorow if other members of the finally don't start giving random comands to certain linux interested but not at all authoritarian people :P) Good night and thanx for the time...
 
Old 06-22-2003, 06:07 PM   #40
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Second day? Blimey, you've been moving fast actually
I dont think we have to worry about you constantly using the root gui. You'll have fun restoring it to an actually working version-Mandrake likes to make it hard to use because really you shouldnt need to.
 
Old 06-23-2003, 04:39 PM   #41
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O.k. Finally I get the chance to use the computer today.... (Don't u just hate it when parents start worrying about your exams more than you do?)
Well anyways I logged on as root, changed the config file with the broken one I just posted (no typos this time) and guess what when I pressed apply in the lilo setup manager the thing said the same thing it said before.. the config file is erroneous please press that "p button"... so I pressed that and it brought it back to what it was before... so now I am really puzzled but I think I'm gonna just drop it.. thank god it works
I'm just gonna stick with the backup file I made just in case and then learn how to give a file copy command in console so that I could change it back if it ever gets messed up again.
 
  


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