I wasnt sure where to put this post but I thought it was most suitable here.

Can you recommend a xDSL router that features a built in modem. I need it to have about 4 RJ45 sockets and if possible I need it to have been confirmed to support the Nintendo Gamecube. I thought I had found one but it turns out that not many routers feature a built in modem. If all else fails I dont mind getting a router and modem sepuratly but I dont have much money to spend on it.

Edit: Forgot to say that I am in England if it helps and the type of DSL I am using is ADSL.

You could buy a DSL modem and build a router for almost nothing. All you'd need is an old pc (418 would work just fine), your NICs 9ISA cards would work fine too) and a floppy based router distro like Coyote Linux which can be found here:

http://www.coyotelinux.com/

I dont have an old computer.

Here is a list of what I want:

• Able to connect at least 3 computers
• MUST Connect to PC with RJ45 (Although I wouldnt mind also being able to connect to it using USB)
• Needs to support ADSL
• If possible have an ADSL modem built in (Although I am open to suggestions about modem and router setups people have)
• MUST be external
• Needs to be cheap (Under £100)

When I think of more things I will add them to the list.

How many US$ is 100 pounds equal to?
I've got about $60US into my router & cable modem.
Of course you could always do this:

Get a DSL modem, put a second NIC in your PRIMARY machine, to that NIC add a hub and your other machines can share your internet connection by plugging into the hub. The PRIMARY machine would be the router. This is very easy to do. You would have to run IPMasquerading which would route the packets coming accross the network to the proper machine. Your PRIMARY machine could also be a DHCP server so that the other machines could connect and disconnect as they pleased(for example a laptop that connects to more than one network). You can also use STATIC IP's. The disadvantage is that if the PRIMARY machine isn't on then no one can access the internet. That's about all I can figure. I had no idea that you could connect a gamecube to the internet but if it speaks TCP/IP then there is no reason that your gamecube wouldn't work.

It doesn't really matter. The 'A' stands for Asynchronus. What it means is that upload and download speeds are not the same in fact your download speeds are much faster than your upload speeds. Good for you, bad for anyone who wants something from you.

That's the only suggestions I have, hope they helped. If you want an assist on setting up your PC as a router post back & we'll go from there.

I havent even got one NIC in my main computer but i do have one in another pc that is my sisters. However that one is being used as i had to network a laptop to it so she could us the cd-rom as she broke her pc's.

The main reason I want a router is because I use lots of different OS's on my computer (which is the one that would be connected to the internet) and I am a begginer in linux so there is no chance of me setting it up as a router.

£100 is about $150.

Thinking about it I could just get the modem first and set that up because if i wanted to use my gamecube on it i would just have to disconnect my pc. But then I still need to find a decent modem and NIC to use....

Hello, I'm not sure what products are available in England, however, you can find many wired routers (routers that require cables) for less than 40 dollars american, I reccommend either D-link or linksys as main stream routers go....as far as the adsl modem goes I don't know anythng about those you'll have to make your own choice. As for your game cube the other guy was correct there shouldn't be any problem with it. although I believe you will need to enable dhcp server on your router in order for the game cube to obtain an ip address. if you can find a modem relatively cheap you won't have a problem with your finances.


--Alex

About linux routers.
I a book on it. Looks find and nice.
If i not wrong, u can get lot of information over the internet.

I try to find out, i will post the URL for u.
), hopefully can help you out.

Using Linux routers always save your money

Don't even think about buying D-Link as they have a known security flaw. Unless of course you don't care who gets in.

WHAT! - I thought you Brits had more chisme' than that! It really isn't that hard, it just takes a little effort and time. Anyway...good luck in your endeavors. Hope you find a solution.

When I say begginer I mean I have hardly ever used linux. I want to use it but I am having problems with things like drivers being out of date and the only way I can update them is by using the internet and I cant get the internet working on linux.
If I had time I probably could get it work but I am currently feeling lazy so I dont want to (+ I have screwed up linux so badly that it needs a new install).

If I can get a power adaptor I could import a router from america as they are so expensive here (Damn tax ).

Here is a power converter:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...383048-1745709

Can anbody recommend a router and/or modem that they have used???

Indeed - I've used 2. A Dabs one, and an Alcatel-based one. the Alcatel is better. It is also amazingly cheap - less than £50 - here's the link - http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=43344

The Dabs router is also excellent, but a little dearer - £69 - page - http://www.dabs.com/products/prod-se...price&stab=ref
The 4 port would be the one you need.

As for using an old PC - the PC needs to be on, using electricity for you to access the internet. It is obviously bulky and relatively noisy, too. These routers are very small, use very little power and are silent. That's why I would choose a router every time.

Noisy? - nah not at all. That's a voice of inexperience speaking there. You've obviously never built one. There is nothing but a power supply fan running. Besides, I wouldn't trust my networks security to some junk peddling company (read D-Link) that provides a flase sense of security for a cheap price. I know for a fact that I am secure. If security is an issue then I would advise researching the company you buy from. Their idea of security may not be equal to yours. Additionally some of us are not in a hurry to fill up the landfills any quicker than they already are by throwing out perfectly good working machines. But I understand that some people aren't intelligent enough to build their own router and would prefer some cute shrinkwrapped generic solution that owrks 'out of the box'. Here is a short quip from an article I found some time ago.

"Router security involves
protecting the network itself by hardening or securing the routers.
Specifically, it prevents attackers from using routers to gain
information about a network that can be used in an attack, disabling
the routers (and therefore the network), reconfiguring routers, and
even using the routers to launch further internal or external attacks.
Router attacks have not drawn a lot of attention from the media,
however, because routers are often used to provide attackers with
valuable information about the network and servers rather than being
the object of attack themselves. Moreover, router compromises are less
likely to be detected than other forms of attack."

Cisco-considered by most to be the best router in the world (it does run an estimated 70-80% of the internet) has even had security flaws that an attacker can exploit and use to gain access to a network. So beware (unless you don't mind advertising your credit card numbers, bank account numbers etc. to whomever may wish to see them and remeber, that goes for any machine connected to your network.

So carlywarly - have you done a port scan on yourself lately?? https://grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2

I have.

Thanks rickenbacherus for pointing out that I'm not intelligent enough to build a pc-based router. However, my post doesn't contain 3 spelling mistakes and one grammatical error, either

Uh..............I MEANT to do that???

touche'

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