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Old 03-04-2005, 03:39 PM   #1
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IP addresses and web-servers: n00b theory question


Hiya Penguins

I will be (finally) taking the plunge and shifting from dial-up to broadband and am interested in setting up a web-server in a DMZ behind a firewall/router as well as a LAN. My query refers to how it is supposed to work if my ISP allocates a dynamic IP address (i.e. changes if I need to power down, etc.). If I were to register a domain name using lycos or whatever, and if the ISP changes IP addresses, how am I going to be able to maintain an accessible service? I hadn't planned on running a DNS, but I am unclear as to how a (sometimes) changing IP address can be associated with a particular hostname reliably.
For instance: would I need to register with lycos (for e.g.) and provide them with a potential range of IP addresses? Would this be solved through some kind of aliasing at the external-facing firewall and in which case, please steer me toward some decent documentation so that I can beef up on the concept? Or ... ?

I hope that, despite my confusion, my question is clear and I'd be appreciative for any light someone could shine on this for me please.

TIA all.

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Old 03-04-2005, 04:01 PM   #2
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You'll need a dynamic dns service. Dyndns.org is one of the best known. I've been using the free part of their service for a year or so without any problems. (Other than my own user error once)
 
Old 03-04-2005, 05:35 PM   #3
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Yeah I checked dyndns out - they do dynamic dns for free don't they? Does that mean that you have to be for e.g. http://www.tireseas.dyndns.org? or could it be http://www.tireseas.org?
While I appreciate the tip, the question still remains: how does that work? Because I haven't grasped the concept, that process seems very much like pinning a tail on a moving donkey
 
Old 03-04-2005, 09:39 PM   #4
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Ok, here's the two-part answer:

1. You can read more about their services on their site, but they provide free services for subdomains of their own domains (i.e., yourhost.dyndns.org), and charge a small fee for yourhost.com.

2. Their service just provides DNS services, basically. The only key is that they can be updated through an automated program. A program running on your machine checks your IP and when it changes, updates the DNS records on their servers.
 
Old 03-11-2005, 05:29 AM   #5
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Thanks Matir. That makes more sense. I think committing myself to that route is a little further down the road from where I am at present, but this is good to know.

Thanks for your help
 
Old 03-11-2005, 04:00 PM   #6
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dyndns provides the domain name registration but that does not include DNS. they charge extra for that. just an fyi. I was annoyed when I registered a domain name with them and they wanted more money to provide DNS
 
Old 03-12-2005, 11:27 AM   #7
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Thanks for the head's up on that "hidden cost" gsgleason. What did you do? Pay the money or find an alternative?
 
Old 03-12-2005, 01:03 PM   #8
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alternative -

http://www.everydns.net/

they provide free DNS services. works like a champ.
 
Old 03-12-2005, 02:58 PM   #9
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deleted - double post ? server fault???

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Old 03-12-2005, 02:58 PM   #10
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Look at www.freedom2surf.net (under business or specialist 50/1 - unlimited use) as they supply a competitive broadband price and static address. I have been using them for a year and have never had an outage (touch wood) and have run my server for 8 months.

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Old 03-12-2005, 05:58 PM   #11
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Thanks TigerOC, but I'm not really in the market for a provider as I have a contract already, although as I am due to be connected soon, can't really comment on the quality, but the ISP does have a great reputation.

gsgleason : what is it about everydns.net that you like? Do they work with dynamically assigned IP addresses?
 
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no dynamic dns, no. it's just free and works, that's all.
 
  


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