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Old 11-13-2003, 05:00 PM   #1
pabloromero
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Angry HELP with networking between a PC with Linux RH8 and Windows 98


Ok, i read a lot, and i read, i read...and i have no solution for my question.

Im new to Linux. All world says Linux will be "The Orgasm" for the XXI's but...

I decided to change. I decided to test. Until now, im not convenced...

I have a tiny network with 2 PC. The first PC has Windows 98SE and another partition with the RH8 Linux. The other PC has Windows 98 SE.

The first PC has dual boot. This is working very fine.

When i boot both machines with Windows 98SE, my tiny network works fine.

PC One: 10.0.0.1 - PC Two: 10.0.0.2. Doing "PING" works as expected.
So far, so good. 255.255.255.0 and so on on the NET icon on Control Panel.

This tiny network works with a coaxial cable. Works fine. The two NICS
( one 3com , the other, an old WinBond ) works fine.

So, i decided start Linux on PC one. The NIC is configured. The IP is configured. When i do ifconfig, i see "lo" and "eth0"...all seems be in place.

On the Linux PC I do PING 10.0.0.1...Ok, allright. I do PING localhost...ok, fine, beatiful.

I try to do a PING between the PC: zero, nada, nothing, niet. From the Windows PC...Ping 10.0.0.1....nothing. From the Linux PC PING 10.0.0.2...zero, niet, nada....

I checked a lot of sites in search engines about this. NOTHING. All people about DNS, Internet...but a home network...nothing.

About Windows and Linux: USE SAMBA! yes!!! i dance samba on the brazil very well! The black girls beatiful are with me...and the Linux too. I have samba configured. I do

smbclient -U% -L localhost

Samba shows all fine. smbstatus..shows that samba is fine.
SWAT...shows that samba is ok.

I know...its me? do i missed something...? can u give me some advice?

ON THE CONTRARY...THE F***ING WINDOWS NT WILL WIN ANOTHER SOUL!!!! DON LET THIS HAPPEN PLEASE....
 
Old 11-13-2003, 05:26 PM   #2
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Do you have a software firewall on either pc (blackice, zonealarm, etc..)? I've found that these programs will do that. If you do tell it to trust or allow the pc's ip.
 
Old 11-13-2003, 08:29 PM   #3
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nothing

My windows 98 ( pc2 ) has nothing. Its pure...

My linux PC ( pc1 ) has nothing...no firewall, no proxy..
 
Old 11-13-2003, 08:41 PM   #4
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Unhappy More data

Mi PC Linux was installed with a firewall policy "high" on eth0. I disabled it using the network tools. My Linux PC is a Red Hat 8 installed with the "server options"...

I believed that PING between Linux-Windows machines was a matter of putting IP addresses and that's ok. After, if I want share disc and so on...
I will use Samba to do that.

Then i read about gateways, dns...but i have a home network: two simple PC's, a coaxial cable, and all this with Windows works!!!.

Can you see my anger? Where are all the beauty about Linux if for doing this single thing I have to reinvent the wheel...

When i do PING from the linux machine to teh Windows machine
i get "HOST UNREACHEABLE"

And from Windows PC to LINUX:
i get "HOST not found"

Do i must have hope?

Last edited by pabloromero; 11-13-2003 at 08:44 PM.
 
Old 11-14-2003, 11:27 PM   #5
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calm down man,
ok, first thing , run /sbin/route , can u see route table in your linux machine. you should see route table in there, if not , you need to reconfigure your network. make sure you have soemthing like that.
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface
10.0.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0
 
Old 11-15-2003, 04:10 PM   #6
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Ok, friend. I will test that.

But:

1) if i install network in Linux...that's all i need to do a simple PING to my windows machine? To do a simple PING and the Windows machine responds, what does it need?

remember: mi network under Windows, works. Its a simple coaxial cable and the corresponding NICs. The linux machine is a Red hat 8 Installed with the Server option.

2) what do i put in GATEWAY when i configure the network card?

3) resolv.conf is empty. is correct this?

4) the "hosts.conf" file has

127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain
10.0.0.1 servidor.linux.net is correct this?

5) the windows machine...what does it have to have inside the TPC/IP configuration?

6) is there anything else that i have to write inside linux? hosts, resolv, DNS...i dont have any DNS...it a simple home network...

Thanks my friend. If i cant resolv this, Windows will become my best friend and Linux will be only for guys that dont have any girlfriend. Im very disappointed.

Pablo
 
Old 11-15-2003, 07:39 PM   #7
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I'm getting exactly the same situation. I hope anyone can Help ....
 
Old 11-16-2003, 01:39 AM   #8
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well,
i was just like you before i know what linux can do. still finding out wat i can do with linux. i am actually quite good at window , caz i am making money out of windows, fixing other computers. so in fact i owe windows , for making lots of problem with their windows, . anyway, i just have to warn you , not discourage, linux needs your time, you need to read and try, not just like windows,
and again unlike windows, you dont hve to waste your time waiting rebooting machine many time whatever you do, and reformat and reinstall again, so it is your life and your choice. . i am not good at linux, not near my skill with windows, but i am prepared to learn and give my time for it,
well, i better stop my propaganda ,

ok, pabloromero
you are using cox cable, do you have proper terminator on it? ( i guess they need terminator). on windows machines,in tcp/ip, set IP , 192.168.2.2, submask 255.255.255.0, (u can choose any ip u like, it is just example) , and reboot, then check ur ip in window by running winipcfg, and make sure it has the address u give.
in redhat box
type "/sbin/ifconfig" see you have your NIC and address there, if you do ,
type /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.1

see how you go there.
 
Old 11-17-2003, 03:07 PM   #9
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>you are using cox cable, do you have proper terminator on it?
yes, Under Windows, tho two machines can comunicate very well

>192.168.2.2, submask 255.255.255.0, (u can choose any ip u like, it is just example) , and reboot, then check ur ip in window by running winipcfg, and make sure it has the address u give. >

I did that in Windows and Linux. Both have the same IP

>type "/sbin/ifconfig" see you have your NIC and address there, if you do ,
type /sbin/ifconfig eth0 192.168.2.1>

I did that. Nothing happens.

So....
 
Old 11-18-2003, 09:24 AM   #10
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I solved my Problem. I have installed windows again and networking is it's working fine !!!

I discovered that to be able to boot again I had to do a: fdisk /mbr

TX
 
Old 11-24-2003, 02:03 PM   #11
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I solved my problem. Mi Machine 1 with red Has Linux 8 has a 3Com+ ISA 3C509/3C509b EtherLink III. The Linux driver for this NIC was not made by 3Com. It Was made for a good guy without the 3com support, this is the reason for this NIC works in windows, but not doesnot work in Linux.

I replace this NIC. My LAN LINUX-WINDOWS NOW WORKS.

Thank you to all of you , for your help...
 
  


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