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View Poll Results: Which do you prefer?
3.5mm jack 32 69.57%
USB-C 2 4.35%
Both 9 19.57%
Other or I Don't Care 3 6.52%
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Old 06-15-2018, 09:24 PM   #1
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How do you feel about smartphones removing the 3.5mm audio jack?


I'm starting to see a few android phones following apple's paradigm of replacing the 3.5mm jack with USB-C. Sure, the 3.5mm jack it's old technology but it is still widely use.

I personally don't like it. I prefer the 3.5mm jack over USB-C. So, what's your though on this?

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Old 06-15-2018, 09:56 PM   #2
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When I got my new HTC U11, the salesperson informed me of the new USB-C jack and said that it was designed to make the phone waterproof (the phone also came with USB-C noise-reduction earbuds, a plus for the manufacturer, but I loath noise-reduction earbuds, a minus for me). Then I went to the HTC website and read what "waterproof" meant--to make a long story short, it's "waterproof" for about a minute; to cut through the verbiage, USB-C is to protect the phone when some doofus drops it in a john (loo in the UK).

(I purchased some USB-C to 3.5mm adapter cables from HTC, but their performance has been, shall we say? spotty, and I don't think that's an HTC problem, I think it's a USB-C design problem.)

AFAIC, it would be more productive to make doofus-proof phones.
 
Old 06-15-2018, 10:03 PM   #3
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I am afraid my adoption of new mobile phone technology is very slow so I won't be buying anything without a jack. The fact that apple is behind this makes me even less likely Grumble, grumble, young folks today, etc.
 
Old 06-15-2018, 10:28 PM   #4
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So too is mine. I got a new phone because the old one, which I'd had for about four years, was wearing out; the battery wasn't holding a charge long enough any more. I don't buy new solely because it's new; I buy new because stuff wears out.

I do quite like the HTC U11 as a stand-alone smartphone, but I'm not a fan of USB-C for the reasons listed above.
 
Old 06-15-2018, 10:39 PM   #5
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When I got my new HTC U11, the salesperson informed me of the new USB-C jack and said that it was designed to make the phone waterproof (the phone also came with USB-C noise-reduction earbuds, a plus for the manufacturer, but I loath noise-reduction earbuds, a minus for me). Then I went to the HTC website and read what "waterproof" meant--to make a long story short, it's "waterproof" for about a minute; to cut through the verbiage, USB-C is to protect the phone when some doofus drops it in a john (loo in the UK).

(I purchased some USB-C to 3.5mm adapter cables from HTC, but their performance has been, shall we say? spotty, and I don't think that's an HTC problem, I think it's a USB-C design problem.)

AFAIC, it would be more productive to make doofus-proof phones.
Yeah, I agree. I seen some youtube videos that some USB-C headphone will have compatibility issues with some phones. It's just a stupid idea to replace something that works well with something that's not suited for audio yet.

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I am afraid my adoption of new mobile phone technology is very slow so I won't be buying anything without a jack. The fact that apple is behind this makes me even less likely Grumble, grumble, young folks today, etc.
Same here. Any future phone I get must have a 3.5mm jack.

Thanks frank and timl for your replies.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 01:20 AM   #6
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i mainly use my phone for listening to things on the go, so this makes me feel very, very sad.

edit: my current phone does have a 3.5mm jack, no problem there. but i would hate for that to go away in the future.

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Old 06-16-2018, 01:58 AM   #7
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I have an older 4s Iphone basically sticking with that. It has a 3.5mm jack.
 
Old 06-16-2018, 04:18 PM   #8
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I need 3.5 for wired headphones and ear buds. I think the sound is better wired than with bluetooth. I'll be keeping my current phones for a long time.
 
Old 06-17-2018, 01:33 AM   #9
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I think the sound is better wired than with bluetooth.
I'll be keeping my current phones for a long time.
this.
good headphones should have a long lifespan.

also, yes, everyone seems to like going wireless these days ("it's so much more convenient, innit, no wires!"), but i agree, it most likely compresses the audio before transmitting it (and then probably tries to "boost" it again inside the phones ).
 
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this.
good headphones should have a long lifespan.

also, yes, everyone seems to like going wireless these days ("it's so much more convenient, innit, no wires!"), but i agree, it most likely compresses the audio before transmitting it (and then probably tries to "boost" it again inside the phones ).
Actually, on the other side of the coin. I tend to have lunch in my workshop and I pipe audio tracks from the phone to a speaker via bluetooth. It works for me and provides a brief escape from work. If I sit in the lunch room most people are busy with facebook anyway so conversation is limited.
 
Old 06-17-2018, 04:49 AM   #11
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^ i also have wired mini-speakers!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....aL._SX355_.jpg
for this size, the sound is incredible; i even listened to some fuzzy grunge rock at maximum volume and was satisfied.
the price wasn't bad either.
 
Old 06-17-2018, 07:54 PM   #12
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^ i also have wired mini-speakers!

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....aL._SX355_.jpg
for this size, the sound is incredible; i even listened to some fuzzy grunge rock at maximum volume and was satisfied.
the price wasn't bad either.
That looks like a portable air conditioner But I imagine it does sound good.
 
Old 06-17-2018, 08:48 PM   #13
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Phew!

Samsung S9+ has a jack. Didn't think much about it. Older phones after about 4.5 years finally would no longer keep charges, so we got new ones for the family. That's what we got and they have 3.5mm jacks.

Yeah ... I'd be bummed, I listen to music using that during my workouts. I suppose there is a converter plug as said, but just one more thing I'd not like to add to it all. The phones do have USB C jacks for interfacing and charging.

Very, VERY difficult to make a plug in interface waterproof. Moisture-resistant is one thing and they certainly try.

But for things like immersion? No. You typically need a rubber boot to seal it off, so that you either cannot be plugged in, or the plug may have threads and a covering boot to seal it all off.
 
Old 06-17-2018, 09:00 PM   #14
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Well considering I went back to a non smart phone/flip phone, I would say I have a while before this shows up in my yard. I did vote 3.5 though.
 
Old 06-18-2018, 12:04 AM   #15
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That looks like a portable air conditioner
the dimensions are a bit misleading because they seem to have used an older and thus smaller iphone.
the speakers dimensions are 7.5cm X 5cm X 5cm.
and btw, it can hold the charge for a looong time, and when the battery gets low it doesn't simply die, but the sound degrades.

oh and those are my headphones:
https://mikeshouts.com/wp-content/up...adphones-2.jpg
not exactly hi-fi but loud.
the cable is detachable on both sides, and the little play/pause switch still works, wherever i plug the cable in.
genius.

so yes, please keep building phones with 3.5mm jacks.

the real reason for removing them is because every hardware switch/button/connector is expensive to make durable. the less hardware switches, the cheaper you can manufacture phones that don't break during warranty.

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