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Old 08-29-2021, 10:16 AM   #16
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Not sure if worth mentioning but Xiaomi phones are produced in Beijing and have been suspect of having pre-installed malware. Personally, I would never own a phone made in mainland China. I have had great luck with LG and Samsung phones.

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Old 08-29-2021, 10:22 AM   #17
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If I got a phone that acted that way, the first thing I would do is send it back. The second thing would be to get a different make and model of phone to replace it, and have my provider put my number onto the new phone.
Indeed, and please note that the phone the OP is asking about has a *KNOWN ISSUE* of random reboots, addressed by the manufacturer, on their own website. That is one of the main reasons they mention as to 'proof' of being hacked. That, and 'chats' that disappear....amazingly enough from Telegram. Where the app can be set to auto-delete messages after a certain timeframe...which is exactly what the OP claims as a second bit of 'proof'.
 
Old 08-29-2021, 01:01 PM   #18
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Has this phone been looked at by anyone other than dedec0? Why would you not just take it in to a service shop and demonstrate the problems there? Surely that should be step 2, after showing it to your friends?

I will make the point, though, that if a hacker had actually breached your Telegram account, then he and his malware would obviously not announce themselves by deleting your messages. I don't think it's too early to point this out.

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Old 08-29-2021, 02:15 PM   #19
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And a point I need to make as a hacker myself: hacking a single phone or PC is a waste of time unless you are just messing with someone or getting revenge, etc. most cyber criminals are going to target large organizations where they can get $ or data. Not saying a single phone won’t get hacked but it is less likely to be. Also, not a phone expert by any means but pretty sure the end user has to install a malicious app for a phone to be compromised.
 
Old 08-29-2021, 02:37 PM   #20
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You should contact Telegram's support about your issues with Telegram.

Your next contribution to this thread should be an update on what they said.
 
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Old 08-29-2021, 04:56 PM   #21
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The situation Is this:
I know who the person who hacked me might be, I also know that he could have been helped by a friend of his who works in the police. I guess he did this to me because he on several occasions he knew things that only I was aware of. It is clear that I cannot file a complaint for this and the postal police do not check the phone without the permission of a magistrate. So you all understand that I cannot provide technical details. I don't know anyone who can control my phone.
i know for sure that despite the hard reset, passwords and the vpn, my phone is still under control. so what should i check in order to find traces? what should i do to solve the problem? I imagine that the solutions could be many, but what would you do? how would you proceed?

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I know who the person who hacked me might be, I also know that he could have been helped by a friend of his who works in the police. I guess he did this to me because he on several occasions he knew things that only I was aware of. It is clear that I cannot file a complaint for this and the postal police do not check the phone without the permission of a magistrate. So you all understand that I cannot provide technical details. I don't know anyone who can control my phone.
i know for sure that despite the hard reset, passwords and the vpn, my phone is still under control. so what should i check in order to find traces? what should i do to solve the problem? I imagine that the solutions could be many, but what would you do? how would you proceed?
All:

Yes, it's clear what we just read and no, it's not the right course of action to make a performance out of ignoring the obvious. But before you all go dunk on it, go read my latest post in the 'What's with these regular "I was hacked"? threads?' thread in the Suggestions & Feedback forum. I'll link to it:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...9/#post6279612

This especially goes for you, dedec01, if you are really the friend you say you are.

(And crankycris: if what you believe is true, then the answer to 'what should i do' is still to carry out the recommendations you were already given. You want "traces" of what someone did to your Telegram account? You ask Telegram Support for them. You think your SIM might be compromised and you're not sure if the phone is too? You replace both. All of these were already suggested).

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Old 08-29-2021, 05:50 PM   #23
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Has this phone been looked at by anyone other than dedec0? Why would you not just take it in to a service shop and demonstrate the problems there? Surely that should be step 2, after showing it to your friends?
Hello, people.

I thank you all for the last messages you sent, since yesterday. There are many ideas here that i could not have made. I am a new, pretty basic Android user, and i do not use it in the phone very much. The phone i have now - somewhat old - is the first phone with Android (or any similar OS) i got. Usually, for me, internet on just in a moment to pay something with banks' apps, or to access a service in my country/city/state, or play or watch a bit of a game i like, over the internet, in "special moments" that i must be far from the computer. This has be rarer with the quarantine the world is in. What cannot be done in a browser, just on the phone, i do - but complaining a lot, if i must do it anyway. If it can be done in a normal PC, i choose the PC 99% of the times - and i leave the phone without internet when i am not using it. And the internet for it is usually just the wifi of my cable internet, at home.

I and Cris live in different continents. So, my helps for her are made just with chats and ideas, mostly. We never met in real life. And my ideas are limited exactly in what is needed, sometimes. This is the reason why i thought this thread would be a good thing to do.

One thing pointed here that seemed to be bad for Cris is about the details needed to share here, for being helped. I think she was thinking that too much specific details were needed (while i was thinking that just a basic general idea is usually enough, as usual in fora). But we have talked about it, and now, i am thinking the thread should progress more smoothly.
 
Old 08-29-2021, 06:14 PM   #24
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The situation Is this:
I know who the person who hacked me might be, I also know that he could have been helped by a friend of his who works in the police. I guess he did this to me because he on several occasions he knew things that only I was aware of. It is clear that I cannot file a complaint for this and the postal police do not check the phone without the permission of a magistrate. So you all understand that I cannot provide technical details.
No, we DON'T understand why you can't, because again, what you're saying makes no logical sense. You're using either your phone or computer to post HERE...wouldn't the 'hacker' know that too?? How would providing details in any way be detrimental to you getting help with a problem??

Don't want to post them here? Then there is, AGAIN, **NOTHING** we can do to help. We can't guess. So since there is some nefarious hacker watching your every move, wouldn't it be far better to NOT come to a forum, and go get help from someone, in person, wherever you live??
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I don't know anyone who can control my phone. i know for sure that despite the hard reset, passwords and the vpn, my phone is still under control. so what should i check in order to find traces? what should i do to solve the problem? I imagine that the solutions could be many, but what would you do? how would you proceed?
Since you STILL don't tell us what makes you think you're being 'hacked', what do you think we can tell you to check? You claim to 'know for sure' your phone is 'still under control', but won't tell us how.

And this sounds VERY familiar to anyone who's been reading threads here over the past year or two. It follows the exact same pattern every time:
  • Claims of "I've been hacked!"
  • Person claiming is is always 'new' to things, yet somehow knows about how to configure VPN's, etc.
  • Details or proof? Never can be provided
  • They typically 'know' who it is...yet somehow can't do anything.
  • Usually involves police/government/etc.
Occam's razor applies in these situations; again, your phone has a know issue with random reboots. Your messages disappearing from a messenger app that has a time-limit seem absolutely normal. They 'know things' about you...after your use of numerous social media apps (hardly surprising, is it?)

This thread again ticks all the boxes. Don't think the kind of help you're after can be found on a technical forum.
 
Old 08-29-2021, 07:51 PM   #25
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I know who the person who hacked me might be, I also know that he could have been helped by a friend of his who works in the police. I guess he did this to me because he on several occasions he knew things that only I was aware of. It is clear that I cannot file a complaint for this and the postal police do not check the phone without the permission of a magistrate.
Based on this, there is no technical aid we can provide you.
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So you all understand that I cannot provide technical details. I don't know anyone who can control my phone.
Irrelevant anyways. You're saying you have someone pairing with some of the authorities to work against you. I'd go off the grid, but you can certainly do whatever works for you. Nothing anyone here advises of a technical nature can do you any good.
 
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Old 08-29-2021, 08:40 PM   #26
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Ok, thank you all.
 
Old 08-29-2021, 08:52 PM   #27
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Based on this, there is no technical aid we can provide you.Irrelevant anyways. You're saying you have someone pairing with some of the authorities to work against you. I'd go off the grid, but you can certainly do whatever works for you. Nothing anyone here advises of a technical nature can do you any good.
As i said earlier, in my post, Cris was thinking that too deep details were needed, when it is not. So, just wait. She have read all the posts, but today had no time to study and (if necessary) comment each.

And there is no need for being agressive with anyone passing by such a situation. Is this allowed in LQ rules?? How do we complain? Do you know how, rtmistler?
 
Old 08-30-2021, 07:28 AM   #28
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Redo the "Factory Data Reset". Read my article on Android Privacy Tips for a safe way to use Android.
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Your article is interesting! I am reading it...You know that Android force you to use a google account. What do you do to avoid this?
 
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Your article is interesting! I am reading it...You know that Android force you to use a google account. What do you do to avoid this?
If you read the article, you would have seen that you just DO NOT sign up/sign in with your Google account. Android DOES NOT force you to use a Google acount.
 
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Your article is interesting! I am reading it...You know that Android force you to use a google account. What do you do to avoid this?
Thanks!

I have never had a Google account. I do not install additional apps. I use the phone only for voice calls, text messaging, and basic web browsing.

The point of the article was that if one is concerned about privacy, there aren't many things one can do on Android because Android is spyware.

Any non-trivial tasks are best done on a PC running Linux.
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