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Old 05-13-2019, 05:42 AM   #16
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Ok, let's go under the hood.

Install dconf-tools and run dconf-editor. This is a very useful tool to have around anyway as it allows GUI access to your desktop and other settings in the gsettings database.

In dconf-editor, navigate to org->gnome->metacity and turn edge-tiling off. You may need to logout and login again for the window manager to pick up the new setting.

If that doesn't work, get back to me. I seem to remember helping out someone else with this and will have a look through my old posts to find out how I resolved the issue.
Interesting. I noticed that after I enabled then disabled window tiling ... it no longer forced window tiling. So strangely the "window tiling" setting being off by default did not have the effect of disabling window tiling, but once window tiling is turned on then off again, the window manager recognizes the setting.

BTW, I will install dconf-tools anyway and see what that looks like. I may find that useful in the future. Thanks for the tip.

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Old 05-13-2019, 06:00 AM   #17
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No problem. In your list of issues at the top of the thread, what is still outstanding? Do you have any other related issues? We may as well continue with our blitz.
 
Old 05-13-2019, 06:04 AM   #18
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No problem. In your list of issues at the top of the thread, what is still outstanding? Do you have any other related issues? We may as well continue with our blitz.
I guess the fact that none of the three fans on my GPU card spin is the final unanswered question. I'd like to force all three to spin all the time, but none worries me. In v18.1 at least one fan would always spin.

Well, I suppose we could wonder why they removed all the programmer libraries from software manager, but I guess the real answer to that is "that's what someone decided to do for some unknown reason". I can install the packages in the terminal with command lines.

As a weird aside, whenever I type text in a forum like this or in youtube messages, there are always two blank lines between paragraphs instead of one. Then when I go back and delete one blank line of each pair, the paragraphs display properly with only one blank line between paragraphs.

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Old 05-13-2019, 06:47 AM   #19
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I guess the fact that none of the three fans on my GPU card spin is the final unanswered question. I'd like to force all three to spin all the time, but none worries me. In v18.1 at least one fan would always spin.

Well, I suppose we could wonder why they removed all the programmer libraries from software manager, but I guess the real answer to that is "that's what someone decided to do for some unknown reason". I can install the packages in the terminal with command lines.

As a weird aside, whenever I type text in a forum like this or in youtube messages, there are always two blank lines between paragraphs instead of one. Then when I go back and delete one blank line of each pair, the paragraphs display properly with only one blank line between paragraphs.
You should create a separate thread in the Hardware subforum for the fan issue.

If I were you, I would still create an issue on Mint's github page for the Software Manager question. It will give you some experience in reporting an issue, if you haven't done so already, and it will be interesting to see what Mint says about this. They may even add a configuration setting to add in the library packages if asked to do so. It sometimes takes a while for issues to be replied to though.

Regarding the weirdness, which browser are you using and which add-ons do you have active in it?
 
Old 05-13-2019, 07:19 AM   #20
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You should create a separate thread in the Hardware subforum for the fan issue.

If I were you, I would still create an issue on Mint's github page for the Software Manager question. It will give you some experience in reporting an issue, if you haven't done so already, and it will be interesting to see what Mint says about this. They may even add a configuration setting to add in the library packages if asked to do so. It sometimes takes a while for issues to be replied to though.

Regarding the weirdness, which browser are you using and which add-ons do you have active in it?

I have the firefox that came with Linux Mint v19.1 as default. I had firefox on v18.1 also. The only addon is adblock plus.
 
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That's unusual. My recommendation would be to quit Firefox then start it with ProfileManager:

Code:
firefox --ProfileManager
create a profile called Test, and see if you experience the same issue with that fresh profile.

You can delete the test profile once you are finished testing.
 
Old 05-13-2019, 10:31 PM   #22
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That's unusual. My recommendation would be to quit Firefox then start it with ProfileManager:

Code:
firefox --ProfileManager
create a profile called Test, and see if you experience the same issue with that fresh profile.

You can delete the test profile once you are finished testing.

Okay, I am answering this message in an instance of firefox created as you suggested. I will leave the message however it displays the first time and not edit to remove the extra line. I am leaving one blank line after this paragraph.


One other strange behavior ... maybe. I notice that every single time I start up the calendar application, it displays full screen (3840x2160) which is, of course, completely absurd for such a simple application.


I don't know whether this is due to excessive self-importance of the authors, or something about v19.1 of Linux Mint. I don't think the behavior was the same on v18.1 of Linux Mint... but I could be wrong about that.
 
Old 05-13-2019, 10:32 PM   #23
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That's unusual. My recommendation would be to quit Firefox then start it with ProfileManager:

Code:
firefox --ProfileManager
create a profile called Test, and see if you experience the same issue with that fresh profile.

You can delete the test profile once you are finished testing.

As you can see, still two blank lines between paragraphs.


Strange. How do I find and delete the profile? BTW, it did not ask me to give a name for the profile, it just started firefox same as always.

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Old 05-14-2019, 04:06 AM   #24
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As you can see, still two blank lines between paragraphs.

Strange. How do I find and delete the profile? BTW, it did not ask me to give a name for the profile, it just started firefox same as always.
If it didn't ask for a name then it didn't create a new profile. This happens if you call firefox --ProfileManager when Firefox is already running, even if it is in the background (i.e. the process may not have yet terminated), or if the option "--ProfileManager" is misspelt. Did you see the little window giving you the choices of creating, renaming and deleting profiles?
 
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If it didn't ask for a name then it didn't create a new profile. This happens if you call firefox --ProfileManager when Firefox is already running, even if it is in the background (i.e. the process may not have yet terminated), or if the option "--ProfileManager" is misspelt. Did you see the little window giving you the choices of creating, renaming and deleting profiles?

Yikes! I still had the same problem after creating a new profile. But going through these motions exposed another strange situation.

As soon as I entered "firefox --ProfileManager" into the terminal window (then created a new profile "temp"), a new blank naive firefox window appeared. However, then I moved the mouse to the bottom of the desktop to run some application (can't remember which now) ... but there was no "launch bar" (or whatever that bar at the bottom of the desktop is called). So I had to enter "shutdown -h 0" into the terminal window to shutdown and restart the computer to get back into normal mode where that "launch bar" exists. Totally strange!
 
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Yikes! I still had the same problem after creating a new profile. But going through these motions exposed another strange situation.

As soon as I entered "firefox --ProfileManager" into the terminal window (then created a new profile "temp"), a new blank naive firefox window appeared. However, then I moved the mouse to the bottom of the desktop to run some application (can't remember which now) ... but there was no "launch bar" (or whatever that bar at the bottom of the desktop is called). So I had to enter "shutdown -h 0" into the terminal window to shutdown and restart the computer to get back into normal mode where that "launch bar" exists. Totally strange!
Have you considered getting a priest to perform an exorcism on your machine?

Only kidding, of course. That is very strange behaviour though and completely unexpected. Is it reproducible? If it happens again, you can restart Cinnamon (and hence the panel) with ctrl-alt-esc. Also a quick note that ctlr-alt-t will open the terminal.
 
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Actually, I've had the "launch bar" vanish in multiple Linux Mint versions over the past several years in various circumstances.

I just shutdown and start up again and remind myself that the peculiarities of Linux Mint are somewhere around a million times less annoying that what I would face with Macroshaft Windoze.

I'll try to remember those keystrokes, but the truth is, I've always had the world's worst memory, so I won't remember.

I'll putz around a bit more and see if I can find anything consistent that might provide a clue to what is happening.
 
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Actually, I've had the "launch bar" vanish in multiple Linux Mint versions over the past several years in various circumstances.

I just shutdown and start up again and remind myself that the peculiarities of Linux Mint are somewhere around a million times less annoying that what I would face with Macroshaft Windoze.

I'll try to remember those keystrokes, but the truth is, I've always had the world's worst memory, so I won't remember.

I'll putz around a bit more and see if I can find anything consistent that might provide a clue to what is happening.
Out of interest, how long is it since you did a fresh install?

Regarding this "I won't remember" thing, I've found that if I write things down then it helps me remember them. That may work for you too.
 
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Out of interest, how long is it since you did a fresh install?

Regarding this "I won't remember" thing, I've found that if I write things down then it helps me remember them. That may work for you too.
I just did a fresh install the day I posted my first message in this thread (a few days ago now). This thread is about the issues I ran into after the install and when setting up everything the way I want everything to work, plus be able to continue developing my 3D graphics application (basically a physics simulation engine).

I do write things down, but then I can't remember where I put my lists. That's only half way a joke. The other half is, the last time I tried to do that I had so many things written down it would take hours or days to find the item I was looking for. And usually/often even that didn't work because my notes weren't clear enough (didn't state clearly enough what the steps I wrote down did, or were for). Later I tried to create a better set of lists, but they got so big, wordy, complex and burdensome that it was even worse. I guess GUIs were supposed to be for memory-deficient people like me, but even they leave much to be desired. I guess I'm just a basket case. But I guess the upside is, people comment about how intuitive the products and devices I create are. The obvious reason for that is ... those are the only kinds of devices I can cope with! Hahaha.

PS: If you're asking how long since I did the fresh install of Linux Mint v18.1 previous to this v19.1 install, that was probably 24 months ago when I built my two Ryzen 7 1800X systems just after the Ryzen CPUs were first released (both Linux Mint v18.1 systems).
 
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Ah, now I'm all for intuitive devices and interfaces. The number of times I've used software that is technically brilliant but a complete disaster to understand and use...

Back to Firefox and the double lines. If you want, try entering about:config in the address bar, then enter editor.use_div_for_default_newlines into the search bar and change the value of that config item to false by double clicking on it. Then see if the double line issue persists.

If you've only just freshly installed Mint then this issue is bizarre. There is of course a reason for everything, but sometimes it is very obtuse.

I use a sticky note program called Xpad for my "need close to hand" notes - it keeps an icon in the system tray so I just click on it when needed. My main Mint notes are in a LibreOffice Writer file that is so detailed that it has been to be seen to be believed. However, it does keep me on the straight and narrow, and allows me to help folk on here too. I don't know where I would be without it as my memory, as yours, is not going to win me awards.
 
  


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