Hi All.
Having server problems with my Asus eepc netbook when I try to use anything i.e access photographs or refresh networks for the net etc I get the DCOP error saying
/root/.DCOPserver_asus-1305264472_0
please check dcopserver is running.

Problem is I have no idea hat that means, Im also experiencing problems with my password it tends to forget what it is creating the login fail,i end up having to restart and F2 to over ride it yet the password is the same. Could the dcop server cause this too?
Please be as simple as possible in replies as I am still learning and have only just learnt what the terminal was lol.
Thank you to anyone in advance

Congrats on introducing yourself to the terminal. You're ahead of a lot of people.

Could you please tell us which distro of Linux your ASUS eepc is running? Is it Xandros or something else (Linpus? Ubuntu?) If you don't know, we can get some idea by typing this command in the terminal:

uname -a

Tell us what it says.

The reason I ask is because you mention DCOP, which is an older system, used in KDE3 and some other desktop environments. The newer KDE4 uses DBUS, not DCOP; and GNOME (the counterpart to KDE) has always used DBUS.

It looks like there may be an old program that expects you to use DCOP where you are not.

Or it may be that you are using DCOP but the DCOP server has restarted and is using a new session. If you have not rebooted (not hibernate/suspend/sleep/whatever, but actually shut down and then restart), then you might want to try that.

If you get it working, let us know what happened so other people with your problem may be able to benefit.

Hi KWTm
thanks for the reply,I have done the command and it came back as
bash *uname: command not found

now that doesnt sound good lol.
I am unsure if someone has been messing in my files i.e the husband he only understands windows so anything could of happended

thanks for any help you can give

Well, could you at least give us some idea of the system you are running? You said Asus eepc (which I guess actually means "Eee PC"). Which one? If I remember, there's the Eee 701, and the 901 etc. etc.

Also, if "uname" doesn't work, please try

cat /proc/version

and

cat /proc/version_signature

Thanks.

Oh, and when you open a terminal window, does the window title give the name of the terminal program? It might be "gnome-terminal" or "konsole" or "xterm", for example.

I am really sorry that I was vague trouble is I dont know what number it is as Its not on the note book itself.
the box is in the loft(somewhere)

however the terminal reads UXTERM before displaying user@asus -1305264477.

after cat /proc/version i got
linux version 2.6.21.4 -eeepc (root@i386-desktop.build.ottawa.xandos.ca)(gcc version 4.1.2 20061115(prereleased)(Debian 4.1.1-21))#2 mon oct 15 12:49.37EDT 2007

I think I may remember it being an eeepc 901 but not 100% 7" notebook...
Thank you for being very patient

Thanks for your info. From my research, I see that you seem to be running a Xandros Linux system, which for the Eee PC does seem to use KDE3 which does use the DCOP system. So I'll assume that the DCOP system is supposed to be running.

I admit that I am rapidly running out of my depth here, but I'll tell you what the general idea is, and maybe someone else can jump in to help as well.

You basically have an error saying that a photo-viewing program (or whatever) is expecting to use the DCOP system to talk to other programs, but the program that maintains the DCOP system (the DCOP server program) is not running session "1305264472_0". (Every time the DCOP server starts up, it makes a different session number. This time it's 1305264472_0; next time it could be 2503942039_0 or whatever. If you hibernate/suspend, it's still the same session. If you turn off then on, or reboot the computer, it's a different session.)

The next step is to see which of the following is true:
a) you don't have a DCOP system running (this would be an error, since we've already concluded that the DCOP system is supposed to be running.
b) you have a DCOP system running, but it's not running session 1305264472_0. I think this is most likely.
c) you have a DCOP system running session 1305264472_0, but somehow the photo-viewing program (or whatever) can't talk to it.

First, we'll see if the DCOP system is running. Please type this in the terminal, and tell us what the output is:

ps -ef | grep -i dcop

The part before the vertical bar "|" (Shift-Backslash) will output every single program running on your computer at the moment (there could be anywhere from 20 to 200), and the part after will look for any programs containing the letters "dcop".

Then we'll look for indications that there is another DCOP session running, other than "1305264472_0". Please type this in the terminal, and tell us what the output is:

ls -a /root/*DCOP*

It is possible that your system says that you don't have permission to do this (I don't know exactly how Xandros for Eee PC is set up), so if you get that error, you might need to do this:

sudo ls -a /root/*DCOP*

If that still doesn't work, then you'd have to log in as root and type ls -a /root/*DCOP*

Lastly, just to make sure that this is not due to your photo viewer program getting the DCOP session number wrong, try rebooting your computer to see if it helps. (Yes, I know, you're not supposed to need to reboot Linux, but if it solves your problem --hey, let's try.) Note that suspending to RAM (sleeping) and suspending to disk (hibernating) are NOT rebooting. To make sure you have rebooted, you should type this in a terminal after you've rebooted:

uptime

This should tell you that the computer has been running for a few minutes (since you rebooted). If it says that it has been running for hours or days, then you haven't really rebooted.

By the way, have you already posted the entirety of the error message when you try to use your photo viewer program? That is, the error message says "/root/.DCOPserver_asus-1305264472_0 please check dcopserver is running." and nothing else?

One more question: every time you get the error from the photo viewer program, is it always the same session number "1305264472_0" or do the digits change?

If none of this works, I'm *thinking about* (but haven't yet decided on) removing the file /root/.DCOPserver_asus-1305264472_0 (by renaming it so the computer can't find it, of course, not by actually deleting it and possibly causing more trouble when we realize we need the file back). But I don't know if that is safe, and I'd want someone else to comment on this thread before I tell you to do it.

Okay, in summary, you should:
1) give us the output of "ps -ef | grep -i dcop"
2) give us the output of "ls -a /root/*DCOP*"
3) reboot and check "uptime"
4) make sure you've given us the entire error message
5) tell us if the error message changes (especially those digits)

Let's see how far I can take this before I give up and need someone else to take over.

Firstly Thank you for all your trying to do Iam very greatful indeed,Secondly for teaching me | I would not of understood or been able to do the lol.

in order of request:
Ps -ef | grep -i dcop:
user 4425 4325 0 15:06pts/0 00:00:00 grep -idcop

ls -a /root/*DCOP*
no such file:command not found

sudo ls -a /root*DCOP*
illegal action '-a'usage sudo -K | -L | -V | -h | -k |-1 |-v usage sudo [-HPSb][-p prompt][-u username |#uld]
{-e file[[....] | -i | -s <command>}

uptime 15:14.14 uptime 20 minuets 2 users,load adverage 0.06, 0.08, 0.09

error message reads
DCOP communication error(photo manager)
There was an error in the KDE the message returned by system

could not read network connection list
/home/user/.DCOPserver_asus-1305264472_0
please check the DCOP server is running.

The number has not changed.
I get these error messages for anything I attempt to open music files network connection etc , the will work but I found it a bit worrying that the message kept error coding me.
sometimes it repeats over and over so I naturally start growing it is annoying but way beyond my comprehension of how or why it coud of happened unless someone removed it or has renamed like you say..
I cant thank you enough for trying to solve this mystery as I would not of got this far without your help.

maybe its not anything to panic about I always shut my system down never hibernate or go into sleep mode, I may leave it idol for a few hours but usually totally shut down.

am I running an old system? is it worth learning to upgrade it? sometimes its best to start a new than to fix something that's outdated.
I would not know where to start however would do so if in your opinion would be a wise move.

if DCOP is not really used by majority of linux users maybe I should be sorting this out by scrapping the dead limb.

I value your opinion

Thank you for taking the trouble to post all the responses to your terminal commands.

You need to know that, when working with computers, and especially when entering terminal commands, you need to be very careful about typing and reporting the text exactly, since the difference of something as seemingly insignificant as a single space can change the meaning of a command. We did not get the needed information in your last post because the information you gave was not exactly correct.

First, I had asked you to type:
However, instead it looks like you typed
Without the space between "-i" and "dcop", the shell thinks that "-idcop" is one word, instead of the two words "-i" (meaning "ignore whether it's upper or lower case") and "dcop" (which is the actual string we are looking for). Please try again. You may wish to cut and paste the commands to prevent mistakes. Also, I note that in your reply you had typed "Ps" (with a capital P) instead of "ps". This will not work at all. Since you did get some response from the computer, I presume that you correctly typed "ps" into the computer but in your reply to me you typed "Ps". When typing computer commands, please ignore any grammar rules about capitalization and using correct punctuation and so forth, and just type exactly what is asked. (If the commands are in quotes, you'll often be told to "omit the quotes".) So, to be clear, I'm going to ask you to type "ps -ef | grep -i dcop" as follows: please type
Second, you said you had typed
but it said "no such file: command not found". This is a very unusual response since "ls" (short for "list") is a very common command and it would be very odd for the computer to say "I don't know what 'ls' means," which is what it's saying right now. Did you type uppercase-i instead of lowercase-L for the first letter of "ls"?

Third, through no fault of your own, the sudo command did not work; it looks like the sudo on your system is set up differently, so please try this:
Fourth, the uptime command seems to have worked and states that your computer has been running for 20 minutes, so it proves that you did reboot. I assume that the error is still present, so that's not a way to clear it up.

Fifth, I should explain that I am looking for where the computer stores DCOP session information --in particular, the session number "1305264472_0". I wonder why the photo viewer program is looking for that session, and not some other session number? Something is telling the photo viewer program to look for that session. It could be a filename, which is why I asked you to do the "ls -a /root/*DCOP*" command above.

However, now you have given me new info on the error message. Whereas for the original error message you had originally put "/root/.DCOPserver_asus-1305264472_0", now you put "/home/user/.DCOPserver_asus-1305264472_0". So this file with a name containing "1305264472_0" could be in either the "/root/" directory or the "/home/user/" directory (Windows users tend to say "folder" instead of "directory"). Either the file is there, or the system is looking for such a file there (but is actually non-existent, causing the problem).

I will ask you to do two more things. One is: please type:
The last thing is: type:
Please type everything exactly, in particular paying attention to where the spaces go. You may want to cut & paste.

So, in summary, there are five things I would ask you to type, and to tell us what the response is. It goes without saying that you should cut & paste the response so that we know exactly what the computer said. If you have to type it yourself, please reproduce every space and upper/lower case and punctuation. Thanks.

I should add that it does not appear that you are using an "old system" and that the system is supposed to be running DCOP.

Hi again KWTm,

the terminal wouldn't allow me to paste the commands so I have checked over and over to ensure correct commands.
I have done them in order of your final quote note.
I don't understand why it would return no such file unless these lists have been deleted? in which case someone is in big big trouble!!!
I tried to see if in the file manager something looked under an odd name or if the dcop file was there..however no such look,but the same error message came
DCOP communication error(file manager)
home/user/.DCOPserver_asus-1305264472_0
I am sure that is the same number? does it mean its missing Oh I sorry I bet your as frustrated as I am =S
Is there a bin to look in to see if I can find a deleted item? I am used to windows not Linux but certainly prefer Linux when I have it working.
I think I should invest in some books as I'm completely clueless when it comes to computers.

so heres the information as read from the terminal


ps -ef | grep -i dcop
user 15114 14741 0 13:15 pts/0 00:00:00 grep -i dcop

ls -a /root/*DCOP*
ls: /root/*DCOP* No such file or directory

sudo -s ls -a /root/*DCOP*
/bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file

ls -a /home/user/*DCOP*
ls: /home/user/*DCOP*:No such file or directory

set | grep -i dcop
_='/home/user/*DCOP*'
_dcop()

I think I have a big problem with lost or missing files not sure why or how this could of happened.