I recommend keeping the latest stable ivtv software installed. Just recompile the kernel with out symbols and please with out printk debugging. Then they should not give you any problems. You will have to recompile ivtv because bttv modules will over write the special tuner and tveeprom modules that ivtv uses. I have both a PVR-250 and a Lifeview Flyvideo 3000. They work well together even though I do not use a DVB card. I recommend picking what card will be video0 and video1 because it can be a nightmare if one card that is loaded faster than other was first instead of second. I think adding an option video_nr or something similar will give you that control.

BTW, I wish that ivtv just adds a prefix to their special tuner, msp3400, and eeprom modules like ALSA developers did then we do not have to move or rename certain modules.

I use ivtv 0.4.2, the most recent one.

Actually, if the dvb device gets installed, it would be found under /dev/dvb/adapter0

I remember that I tried to change that in modprobe.d in alias but it never worked.


I think I need some way to tell bttv to use a different set of modules (the *.ko files) then ivtv, sort of like a pointer or a link.


Maybe I should just learn C++ and program it myself!


In Windows, if two programs use the same dll files but need different versions (which should never happen but does) one way to solve this problem is to put the dll file into the programs folder because the search order lets Windows look there first before it goes to the Systems folder.
I need something like that now.


I'm hanging in there, I'm still having fun!

k, give what electro said a shot tooo.

Where would I add that option?

Oh hell yes! If you bring your own modules, prefix them with ivtv_*, please! Don't just reuse someone elses modules.

So, compiling the kernel, hmm? Never done that before, looks like I have some reading to do.


Thanks!

Ha!

I did something really simple and I fixed it!

Before gettting into all this Kernel compiling I looked over all the error messages once again and decided that the root of all evil was the tveeprom modul.

I replaced tveeprom.ko in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/ivtv/ with the original Kernel module and now it works!


I have first ivtv and then dvb_bt8xx loading in modules. No complaints!
I can still watch analog tv with mplayer and I can watch digital tv with xine.


Thank you halvy and Electro.

Me happy!

Really, you have symbol problems which should not be included in your kernel in the first place because it is experimental and creates problems.

To compile the 2.6.x kernel assuming grub is the boot loader do the following steps.
1) Download the source code for your present kernel or just download the latest stable kernel from kernel.org
2) Decompress it to /usr/src
3) If /proc/config.gz exists, type zcat /proc/config.gz > /usr/src/[kernel source]
4) type cd /usr/src/[kernel source]
5) type make oldconfig
6) type make menuconfig
7) Save the settings after done with step 6
8) type make && make modules_install
9) type cp arch/boot/i386/bzImage /boot/kernel-[kernel version]
10) edit boot loader for the new kernel entry. Do not delete the previous kernel entries or else you can not get back to the one that works if anything goes wrong.
11) reboot into runlevel 3 by adding a 3 at the end of the boot line.
12) remove the symbolic link at /usr/src/linux and set a new one that points to the new kernel source code
13) recompile video card, sound card, ivtv modules

The above steps is how you do it on generic Linux distributions. Debian based distributions takes special steps.

I mean ivtv- as the prefix not ivtv_.

BTW, I am sorry to say that halvy is making it worst.

electro... lol, 'oh really'.

in what area,.. where i told barbex to take your advice...

orrr.. my post yesterday @ 7:13 pm which *possibly* helped formulate where the problem was?

barbex, CONGRATULATIONS!!

but now i don't have a reason to bang my hed against the wall trying to set up an old dvb card with my analog one i have

electro, no hard feelings, i TOTALY respect your knowledge.. we are all in this together

(and yes barbex i still think you should take electros advice, for it may help prevent future problems with this project.)

good luck again, all, my friends in linux..

That's interesting, they should not be included? What a strange thing, you have somewhere where I can read about that?

How?

I have posted my question on five forums, german and english ones and halvy was THE ONLY ONE who even answered to help me and come up with ideas! He certainly did not make it worse for me!

Oh, but now maybe you should!

Thanks a lot for your help. I will look into this kernel compiling thing but right now I just want to get this mythtv thing going!

About module symbols http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Module-HOW...erncompat.html

Make sure before compiling the kernel you have the following lines below.
CONFIG_PRINTK_TIME=n
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=n

Hi Barbex!

It's my turn to give this a go now! I won't be using Myth but I also have to get an analogue and digital card to work on the same Ubuntu.

Hauppauge Nova-T and 150. SO far I have run into exactly the same problems as you so tomorrow I plan to reinstall and folow your posting and see if I can get the same results!

I hope you are still around to help when it all goes wrong

hi jam, you may want to consider using two boxes and network the project.

i'm not sure of your specs or requirments, so this may not be for you.

however as i aproach my own 'barbex' project i am trying to think ahead to see what i would do, confronted with the troubles she had...and one of them would definitley be to try something alternative.. like using two boxes, which would solve the 'compatibility' issue right off the bat.

the only think left would be to find a decent network set up, that was efficiant (ie. fast enuff) to acomplish-- what ever the goals are.

of course with barbex is was simply being able to have the choice of showing all programing, whether it was digital or analog.

also she wanting to be able to record, while watching.

although 'doing' all of that on one machine is possible, it doesn't seem (to me) to be absolutely 'necessary', in order for it to both work and be acceptable (ie. aesthetically).

You are right, it is not necessary to have it all on one machine. With MythTv you can have more the one frontend or backend. There is a master backend and you can have several slave backends (for instance: setup with two backends), so getting everything to work right in one box is indeed not necessary.

But my little green conscience doesn't like the prospect of having several computers running 24/7, I mean I even turn off the power to my router at night! Thats why I wanted it all in one dedicated machine.

I'm still building the case for the box, so I can't test things right now but I will be done soon.

Good luck jammln and halvy with your "barbex"-box (now that cracked me up!)

Hi Guys,

What a fun weekend! Not!

I'm getting so confused by this now, but rather than tell you where I have been I'll tell you where I've got back to and maybe you can help me from there.

I currently have a new clean install of Ubuntu Breezy with the default DVB drivers that come in 2.6.12.

With mplayer installed I can watch tv through the Nova-T card without problem. executing
> mplayer /dev/video1

(this is the PVR-150) obviously doesn't wotk at the moment becuase I don't have the ivtv drivers yet.

I *did* have the ivtv drivers over the weekend but this seemed to cause all sorts of problems so I have started again.

lspci happily shows:

0000:02:0c.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Winfast TV2000 XP (rev 05)
0000:02:0c.2 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8802 (rev 05)
0000:02:0c.4 Multimedia controller: Conexant: Unknown device 8804 (rev 05)
0000:02:0d.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)

So next stage is to try installing ivtv *again*. Is there any process you guys would recommend for this so that I don't break everything again!


Thanks for your help

well tell us what you mean by 'it broke it'.

ahhnd i'm almost afraid to ask who that winfast 2000 xp is make by.

take out all unecessary items such as modems etc.

try to compile the drivers and keep careful note of messages and errors.

make sure you keep a 'good' back up, preferably on your system, this way it will easy and quick to 'start over' should your sys get trashed.

Hi Halvy,

Well the win XP tv card is either the PVR-150 or the Nova-T, both Haupauge and both listed as being supported.


When I say I broke it, I'm not entirely sure how I'm afraid!

I installed ivtv using this howto: ht tp://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu to the letter

I had *no* errors during install at all and ivtv-search(?) showed the DVB card and the analogue card as /dev/video1.

However running mplayer against /dev/video1 did nothing and appeared to give no errors but I could still watch the digital card without any problem.

As a result I'm starting again and willing to take any advice.

Thanks again