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Old 12-11-2020, 01:08 PM   #1
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Question SSD Reliable?


I installed a Crucial MX500 250 GB CT250MX500SSD1(Z)-Up to 560 MB/s (3D NAND, SATA, 2.5 Inch, Internal SSD), Metallique in June this year, 6 months on it's failed. This disk had a good reviews on Amazon.

(https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0764WCXCV)

gparted cannot find it so it looks like it's totally deceased.

I'm reluctant to go for a replacement ssd, can anyone suggest a 'better' ssd? i.e. more reliable?

I liked the speedup it gave to my machine (Mint 20) but only lasting six months doesn't enthral me with any enthusiasm to repeat the experience.
I've hauled out an old 1TB Hitachi hdd to replace it for now and get my dev machine up and running again.






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Old 12-11-2020, 02:02 PM   #2
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Samsung. I have several and although I back up daily, I have had them for 3 or 4 years, formatted and installed countless distros, and never had a failure of any kind. You will pay for them though, they aren't cheap. I have 850 EVOs and 850 Pros. They have newer ones but can't speak to those.
 
Old 12-11-2020, 02:41 PM   #3
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How do you know it is the drive?? Test drive in Known working SSD system?
Just to rule out connector or power or such.
 
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Old 12-11-2020, 05:22 PM   #4
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How do you know it is the drive?? Test drive in Known working SSD system?
Just to rule out connector or power or such.
I should have said, that's my next step before shelling out on a new one, could be loose connector I guess.
I've been too busy with other things.
 
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Samsung. I have several and although I back up daily, I have had them for 3 or 4 years, formatted and installed countless distros, and never had a failure of any kind. You will pay for them though, they aren't cheap. I have 850 EVOs and 850 Pros. They have newer ones but can't speak to those.
They seem quite reasonable now £42 for Samsung 860 EVO 250 GB SATA 2.5 Inch Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (MZ-76E250) on Amazon and Argos
 
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Someone may correct me but I think the larger ones have a longer life, because of the way the storage media works. I could be wrong though.
 
Old 12-11-2020, 06:35 PM   #7
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I bought the 870, think it is the upgrade to 860. May be slightly better?


Anyway, backup is the cure for bad hardware.
 
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Even if gparted doesn't find it, there might be helpful messages in the kernel log.
 
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Someone may correct me but I think the larger ones have a longer life, because of the way the storage media works. I could be wrong though.
Generally larger drives have higher TBW, but that's arguably 'relative' as the total number of drive re-writes may not change with the capacity/TBW increase (and figure the controller is doing wear-leveling across all NAND in the device), so you're still getting the same per-cell life. TBW of course is not an 'absolute' - years ago TechReport did that TBW survey and found most drives (except Intel, who put a deathclock in their firmware) exceed the TBW rating by some reasonable %. My understanding is TBW is more accurate than MTBF though.

To the OP's question: fwiw my lone Samsung SSD is still kicking after 5-6 years (it has outlived the machine it started in as well). I've also had good luck with ADATA and Seagate drives ('sample size' there is 1 Seagate + 4-5 ADATA). That said, it sounds like you probably just got 'a bad one' (not that I have any experience/affinity with the Crucial offering, but I understand them to be a 'name brand' - so I think expecting >6 mos is not unreasonable there) - if it's that new maybe Crucial will even give you a warranty replacement?

On the Samsung 'numbering' - what I understand is the 'higher' number in the 2nd position indicates newer, but you also have to pay attention to the suffix. So '850 Pro' is an upgraded model over '840 Pro' but '850 Evo' is from a different family. I'm not sure if those 'family differences' matter for modern variations or not, but something to look into if you're going after a Samsung.
 
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That said, it sounds like you probably just got 'a bad one' (not that I have any experience/affinity with the Crucial offering, but I understand them to be a 'name brand' - so I think expecting >6 mos is not unreasonable there) - if it's that new maybe Crucial will even give you a warranty replacement?
Interesting post, especially the failure info.

I bought a Crucial ssd as Crucial memory has a good reputation, or at least that's what I thought. Anyway It's way beyond a return to Amazon, so I might contact Crucial directly, but before that this is the plan.

1 Check the connectors

2 Try the disk in another machine I have an old Stone Pentium PC to do this in.

3 Rebuild my dev machine with a spare 1Tb hdd drive I have for now.

If the ssd is definitely dead (I think it is) contact Crucial for a potential refund

Buy a Samsung ssd - if my dev machine isn't performing well enough or at all with the 1Tb hdd drive.

And see if I can read the drive with a USB-SATA cable - only £12 from Amazon

Cheers folks

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I use Crucial Ram and SSD, never had a problem with them. I will be ordering another SSD and ram for my daughter's laptop.
 
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Set embarrassment flag on

Step 1 - check connectors to ssd - yep the data cable was loose - how it cam loose I have no idea, the tower lives under my desk, I haven't bumped it - maybe its the plugging in of usb drives and sticks that caused the problem, or just general vibration, or maybe when the floor was hoovered by the 'boss' - she may have bumped it.

Thanks for all who responded - you can all have little chuckle now.

Set embarrassment flag off
 
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Glad you got it fixed!
 
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Glad you got it fixed!
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Glad it worked out!

Not sure if it will help with this in the future, but they do make 'locking' SATA cables that may prevent the data cable coming loose in the future.
 
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