No sound card detected - Intel 7320 CPU + Asus Rog Strix Z270

Varsuuk · 05-14-2017, 02:12 AM

Finally had time to burn a DVD of Fedora 26 Alpha

Came up with kernel 4.11rc

Still no sound detection. I didn't do much other than go to the control-panel/sound and see that sound was set to "dummy output" as well.

So, either something is wrong with my new MB (possible of course), or there is some setting in kernel startup or uefi bios I need to change (yes, audio HD is enabled, it sees it in lspci - just no codecs)
OR
There is something that needs to be installed or configured via .conf or what have you in the sound system post clean install.

Thoughts?

Shadow_7 · 05-14-2017, 06:15 AM

$ lsmod | grep -i snd

The modules need to be loaded for sound to work. In days of old you needed a .conf so that when sound got used, it would load the drivers for sound. Not so much the case these days, and the sound gets used when mixer settings are restored at boot. Without that old school .conf you had to modprobe / insmod the modules for sound to work. And in a particular order in the case of insmod. Probability low for that to have any relevance to your issue.

Varsuuk · 05-14-2017, 01:01 PM

$ lsmod | grep -i snd
snd_hda_intel 36864 0
snd_hda_codec 126976 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hda_core 81920 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
snd_hwdep 16384 1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm 102400 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_seq_midi 16384 0
snd_seq_midi_event 16384 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi 32768 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq 65536 2 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_device 16384 3 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_midi
snd_timer 32768 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 77824 8 snd_hda_intel,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_hda_codec,snd_timer,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm
soundcore 16384 1 snd
$

This is from my Mint 18.1 install.
If you want, I can reboot into Fedora 26 Alpha to see what shows under kernel 4.11, but suspect not important since that also didn't work and listed only "dummy output" as well.

seasons · 05-14-2017, 06:12 PM

Once again, try passing different values for probe_mask: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=110761#c8

For example, you could add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to probe codecs 0-3 (upon reboot):

Code:

options snd-hda-intel probe_mask=0x10f

If that doesn't help, it's bug report time...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_7

The modules need to be loaded for sound to work... Probability low for that to have any relevance to your issue.

The modules are loading (look at the alsa info link OP gave).

Varsuuk · 05-14-2017, 10:17 PM

Ran the following:
for mask in 01 02 04 08 10 20 40 80; do rmmod snd-hda-intel; modprobe snd-hda-intel probe_mask=0x1$mask; done

Syslog contents:

Code:

May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.619125] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x1
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.619157] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.731796] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.733365] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.756011] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x2
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.756104] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.867865] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.869442] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.899479] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x4
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72179.899567] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.012510] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.013841] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.039720] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x8
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.039770] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.152510] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.154123] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.179977] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x10
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.180066] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.292613] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.294235] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.316050] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x20
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.316141] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:34 merlin kernel: [72180.432151] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.433719] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.463965] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x40
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.464056] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.575872] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.577448] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.600025] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: codec_mask forced to 0x80
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.600115] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: bound 0000:00:02.0 (ops i915_audio_component_bind_ops [i915])
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.711935] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: CORB reset timeout#1, CORBRP = 0
May 14 23:11:35 merlin kernel: [72180.713501] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:1f.3: no codecs found!
May 14 23:11:40 merlin ntpd[1453]: Soliciting pool server 66.228.42.59
May 14 23:11:50 merlin ntpd[1453]: Soliciting pool server 216.229.0.49
May 14 23:11:57 merlin ntpd[1453]: Soliciting pool server 75.128.253.52

Will try reboot as the guy said (mine did not lock up - I'm writing this after running the above), but this rings a bell so suspect reboot won't do a thing.

Will look at the rest of what you wrote and see if anything didn't try.
I find it odd if it IS a bug because I'd expect by now many users of this chip, 1220, if not the same MB would have this issue and I'd have found references to it all over google. I've seen issues with returning from sleep it stopping working but not "not working at all."

EDIT: Tried the 0xf thing as you listed in .conf file. No luck.

Varsuuk · 05-14-2017, 10:19 PM

OK on rereview Seasons, it looks like your conf suggestion is probably same thing I ran by hand (perhaps it matters more at boot?) but just for record, attaching that config, it was never edited by me so it's in vanilla state for my Mint install.

Anything to change?

Code:

# autoloader aliases
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-0
install sound-slot-1 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-1
install sound-slot-2 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-2
install sound-slot-3 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-3
install sound-slot-4 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-4
install sound-slot-5 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-5
install sound-slot-6 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-6
install sound-slot-7 /sbin/modprobe snd-card-7

# Cause optional modules to be loaded above generic modules
install snd /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-ioctl32 ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }
#
# Workaround at bug #499695 (reverted in Ubuntu see LP #319505)
install snd-pcm /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-pcm $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-pcm-oss ; : ; }
install snd-mixer /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-mixer $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-mixer-oss ; : ; }
install snd-seq /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-seq $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-midi ; /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-oss ; : ; }
#
install snd-rawmidi /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-rawmidi $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq-midi ; : ; }
# Cause optional modules to be loaded above sound card driver modules
install snd-emu10k1 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-emu10k1 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-emu10k1-synth ; }
install snd-via82xx /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install snd-via82xx $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist snd-seq ; }

# Load saa7134-alsa instead of saa7134 (which gets dragged in by it anyway)
install saa7134 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install saa7134 $CMDLINE_OPTS && { /sbin/modprobe --quiet --use-blacklist saa7134-alsa ; : ; }
# Prevent abnormal drivers from grabbing index 0
options bt87x index=-2
options cx88_alsa index=-2
options saa7134-alsa index=-2
options snd-atiixp-modem index=-2
options snd-intel8x0m index=-2
options snd-via82xx-modem index=-2
options snd-usb-audio index=-2
options snd-usb-caiaq index=-2
options snd-usb-ua101 index=-2
options snd-usb-us122l index=-2
options snd-usb-usx2y index=-2
# Ubuntu #62691, enable MPU for snd-cmipci
options snd-cmipci mpu_port=0x330 fm_port=0x388
# Keep snd-pcsp from being loaded as first soundcard
options snd-pcsp index=-2
# Keep snd-usb-audio from beeing loaded as first soundcard
options snd-usb-audio index=-2

Varsuuk · 05-15-2017, 01:02 AM

Welp, at least until I can troubleshoot this - I can still install some simple games for the boy to play in den with me (vs from his room with teamspeak) since I found a leftover old USB sound dongle for my old Logitech 330. I never used these, always went directly to the analog inputs for my headsets. Plugged an iphone earphone into it and voila. So he can bring his headset over when he wants to play and it will work.

Still looking to fix this, but have a workaround without buying a pci SB because even though not a terrible waste of cash ($39), I didn't want to have to plug his headset all the time at the BACK of the pc.

Shadow_7 · 05-15-2017, 01:17 AM

Options to a module are 3 possible ways. Manually.

# modinfo module
# modprobe -r module
# modprobe module parammeter=xyz

Via the .conf type files in /etc/modprobe.d/

options module parameter=xyz

Or from the bootloader, like grub.cfg

linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=LABEL=ohMy module.parameter=xyz

Or something like that. A usb soundcard is one option. You can also buy a headphone preamp or extension cable, which helps to bring the back of the computer to the front, as well as other more convenient locations. Another option is a pulseaudio sound server and network your audio. Requires two devices, but a raspberry pi can handle this type of thing, with very low power consumption. Although you might want another usb ethernet dongle to handle the traffic. Not an issue for me as my internet pipe is small enough to not be in competition with audio traffic.

cascade9 · 05-15-2017, 06:43 AM

OK this is a educated guess....

The 'SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC S1220A' is not the same as the Realtek 1220 it is based on, there are some minor software and driver changes, and those changes are enough that the kernels that work with the ALC 1220 wont with the SupremeFX.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Varsuuk

Still looking to fix this, but have a workaround without buying a pci SB because even though not a terrible waste of cash ($39), I didn't want to have to plug his headset all the time at the BACK of the pc.

PCIe, not PCI. No PCI sots on that board.

BTW I'd suggest Asus rather than creative (sound blaster) if you do buy a new sound card.

Shadow_7 · 05-15-2017, 07:43 AM

A little googling and...

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...4-04-in-G751JT

With this option tip:

options snd-hda-intel model=asus-mode5

derived from this link it seems...

https://ubuntuforums.com/showthread.php?t=2261149

might help, might not.

seasons · 05-15-2017, 08:24 AM

We're grasping at straws here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow_7

options snd-hda-intel model=asus-mode5

I've never seen a codec probing issue fixed with a model= string. I don't think it makes sense to play with pincfg's if you can't even find/initialize the codec.
Besides, 'asus-modex' is not a valid model string for ALC1220, which is grouped with ALC882: https://github.com/torvalds/linux/bl...ealtek.c#L7489
Here are possible model strings, none of which look applicable:

Code:

 static const struct hda_model_fixup alc882_fixup_models[] = {
	{.id = ALC882_FIXUP_ACER_ASPIRE_4930G, .name = "acer-aspire-4930g"},
	{.id = ALC882_FIXUP_ACER_ASPIRE_8930G, .name = "acer-aspire-8930g"},
	{.id = ALC883_FIXUP_ACER_EAPD, .name = "acer-aspire"},
	{.id = ALC882_FIXUP_INV_DMIC, .name = "inv-dmic"},
	{.id = ALC882_FIXUP_NO_PRIMARY_HP, .name = "no-primary-hp"},
{}

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9

OK this is a educated guess.... The 'SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC S1220A' is not the same as the Realtek 1220 it is based on, there are some minor software and driver changes, and those changes are enough that the kernels that work with the ALC 1220 wont with the SupremeFX.

This report contradicts your guess: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=225661

Shadow_7 · 05-15-2017, 09:05 AM

We are grasping at straws. If you're lazy, wait for 4.12.x or later versions and it'll probably just work out of the box. We're also a bit short on information, without having the hardware ourselves. It's the codec not found issue that is likely preventing the device from showing up. But snd-hda-codec doesn't seem to have many options. And the alsa page for "links to codecs" is incomplete.

https://www.alsa-project.org/main/in...ebug_Intel_HDA

cascade9 · 05-15-2017, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seasons

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9

OK this is a educated guess....The 'SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC S1220A' is not the same as the Realtek 1220 it is based on, there are some minor software and driver changes, and those changes are enough that the kernels that work with the ALC 1220 wont with the SupremeFX.

This report contradicts your guess: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=225661

Nice find, it would be nice to have more than "Realtek ALC S1220A" e.g. board series, what was done to get it work or did it out of the box with 4.10/4.11, etc. But anyway. no that doesn't. Asus lists them diferently-

Quote:

ROG SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC S1220A

https://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of...pecifications/

Quote:

Realtek® ALC S1220A 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC featuring Crystal Sound 3

https://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards...pecifications/

There are even different drivers for those two boards with the same 'base' ALC 1220A chip (since as far as I can tell thats 'ALC 1120A(sus)'). They even release windows drivers for the different versions, SupremeFX and 'vanilla' Realtek, on the same day. While I haven't heard of anybody trying to use the SupremeFX drivers on the ALC S1220A it is based on, people did try with earlier versions and it doesn't work.

Again, its just an educated guess, but the Asus boards with ALC 1220A all use the same chips, but they flip some value in the firmware for the ROG SupremeFX. Which is why the ALC 1220A works but the SupremeFX ALC 1220A doesn't.

Hey, I'm not saying I'm right, maybe they are the same. That is just the long version of the logic I was using in the 1st place.

Maybe some random glitch which is stopping the sound from working, when if its just an ALC 1220 issue should be fine with kernel 4.11, has been missed over the last few pages.

Varsuuk · 05-15-2017, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9

OK this is a educated guess....

The 'SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC S1220A' is not the same as the Realtek 1220 it is based on, there are some minor software and driver changes, and those changes are enough that the kernels that work with the ALC 1220 wont with the SupremeFX.

PCIe, not PCI. No PCI sots on that board.

BTW I'd suggest Asus rather than creative (sound blaster) if you do buy a new sound card.

Thanks, I haven't kept up with sound cards. I mean, I started with the old Aldlib

and after that switched to SB's so never really checked out new models past when like Live 5.1 came out. My old ISA one would be passed from PC to PC until the new ones couldn't accept it and by then I just used ASUS built-in. (So far all my MBs have been Asus)

For now, the dongle seems fine, he can plug his gamer headset into it. It isn't my game machine, that's to the right of this PC. I just wanted to have Alex be able to play with Dad sitting next to each other vs room to room with TS3 chat. Figure Minecraft, maybe Baldur's Gate if can get it going well enough on this (want to bring him to dark side of RPGs)

EDIT: Forgot to mention --> GOOD Catch, yeah - it's probably "customized for gamer goodness" ;P

As several people pointed out (going to try some of the strings for heck of it and especially read the links) it will probably work "eventually" - I just found it ODD I couldn't find a lot of people crying about it

I tend to love how if I have a problem in general a simply google finds the exact words and BLAM - answers.

I didn't realize board from last Nov/Dec was still "new" enough for this. I also didn't care back when I ordered it since originally intended it for servers and coding. Before got the idea son could play next to me.

Since the dongle "works" for now - I will investigate the links cos I am obsessive like that BUT am technically good until it is updated.

Varsuuk · 05-15-2017, 10:40 PM

Speaking of "until it is updated" (drivers or kernel) - should I just remove the kernel 4.11 I installed from some .deb (iir) I got following a helpful poster here's link?

Since the old kernel updates still appear in my Updater (Mint 18.1) I was thinking that maybe should downgrade since didn't fix it and this way would get the updates without having to constantly check for security updates on the kernel site. I doubt I will remember to although I tend to notice and update regularly from the Mint icon.

Thoughts?

Lastly ---> You. Guys. Rock.

I cannot tell you how much I have appreciated all the help and guidance. I've been working on this as I had time and without you I'd still be reinstalling distros probably ;P

Thanks