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Old 12-29-2005, 06:20 PM   #1
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Mouse? What mouse?


This morning I got up...turned on the computer...and discovered that my my system no longer wants to use a mouse. After ALT+F1'ing and tabbing about, I was able to make it into the ControlCenter/Yast2modules/Hardware/MouseModel and then into the AdminMode. After putting in my root password, my computer finally decided DUHHHHH Dhere's a fudding mousey connected tu muh! DERRRRR!

Can someone tell me why my computer has gone retard on me until I pull it's head out of it's own astrick? Or at least help me pull mine out!
 
Old 12-29-2005, 08:07 PM   #2
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ROTFLMAO....

Now seriously, did you plug anything or replug anything that could
have made your system rewrite it's configs? maybe it's that...
 
Old 12-29-2005, 08:11 PM   #3
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Um, with which type (brand, model) mouse are you having trouble?

If it's got a "ball," did you remove the "ball" and clean out the "accumulation of the ages?" Too much "grunge" can cause problems. . .

Did you unplug, clean the plug contacts (rubbing alcohol works well), and plug it back in? Oxidized contacts can cause intermittent problems.

Have you tried a different mouse? A mouse is a mechanical devices, and it can wear out.
 
Old 12-29-2005, 09:20 PM   #4
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Removed? Nothing that I know of. I even tried three types of mice. USB Logitech MX700, Logitech Ball mouse, and a standard PS2 mouse.
 
Old 12-30-2005, 09:40 AM   #5
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Quote:
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Removed? Nothing that I know of. I even tried three types of mice. USB Logitech MX700, Logitech Ball mouse, and a standard PS2 mouse.
Well, the MX700 is supposed to be a cordless optical mouse, so there may be no "ball" to remove. But there may be a "window" that needs to be kept clean. Check your mouse documentation. Also, if it is, in fact, cordless, then perhaps the batteries were low, and the mouse needs new batteries. (I tried to find the MX700 manual on the Logitech site, but Logitech claims that the MX700 is not available in my country, and won't let me have the information. Probably a cookie problem, since I seldom accept cookies.)

Both the Ball mouse and the PS2 mouse should let you remove the ball. Look at the ball to see if there's a retainer ring around it. There's usually a small hole on the ring into which the end of a paperclip may be inserted to rotate and unlock the ring so the ball may be removed and the contact rollers cleaned.

Edit: Some Logitech mice have "balls" retained only by friction, and a removed by poking them out (with a pencil) from a hole opposite the "working" side of the "ball."

Again, check you mouse documentation for required periodic maintenance instructions.

All that being said, if you tried three different mice, it's more likely that your problem resulted from a failure to detect the mouse when kudzu was started during Linux loading, and, as a result, your system was configured without a mouse. I'm not sure when (or if) kudzu is rerun, except during powerup.

But I use a cordless Logitech mouse, and a "mouse" is detected when the transceiver is connected, even if the mouse itself is not working. And the transceiver is powered by the USB, so "low batteries" result in a "unmoving cursor," not the absence of any cursor. (Um, which was your symptom? If you had a non-movable cursor on your screen, a mouse had been detected, but was not sending any signals to the system. If you had no cursor visible, then no mouse had been detected.)

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Old 12-30-2005, 01:41 PM   #6
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Hmmmm....Well, I can assure you, it isn't a cleaning problem. Kudzu might be the problem. I just started up the computer again this morning and everything went smoothly. Then again, I also had installed an additional mouse on the computer before shutting it down last night. That could have helped...not sure, but the scroll doesn't work now. Weird! I am also considering the possibility that the HD I installed it on is getting long in the tooth. Too many interesting ,"what the #%!!'s" are happening since my installation on this drive. I think I'll pick up a new one and go it from there. Thanks for your helps guys.

Oh....what do I have to do to burn an iso to a disk? I did a copy of KnoppMyth and I can't get it to boot off of it. Do I just burn an immage or what? (Or, should I start a new thread?) Thanks again all!
 
Old 12-30-2005, 01:58 PM   #7
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suse doesn't use kudzu, more likely you updated xorg/sax2 and the configuration got hosed.
 
Old 12-30-2005, 08:23 PM   #8
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Ok, what can I do about it then?

Also, I am having trouble elsewhere as well. I had been having problems with different programs suddenly failing to work, so, I installed a new installation onto an old 40G HD. I had to install it three times before things seemed to take for some reason. As you already know, the mouse went ga-ga, then I just discovered difficulties when in the bios, or trying to get into the bios. The keyboards don't work most of the time. Now I just tried to install KnoppMyth and after getting into the installation screen, I found my keyboard none responsive. This was a USB keyboard so I hooked up a standard keyboard just to see. Nodda! Any idea what is going on?

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Old 12-30-2005, 09:49 PM   #9
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I don't see where you've described your actual hardware setup, but your symptoms sound a lot like those caused by a failing BIOS memory maintenance battery. Is your system more likely to have problems after you've had it powered off (and unplugged) for a while? (I think that most recent computers draw a maintenance current when plugged in, and only depend on the battery when unplugged.)
 
Old 01-16-2006, 05:31 PM   #10
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I think you are correct. It is more of a failing bios problem. Too many things have gone wrong. I'm looking into trashing this one and building a new system.
 
  


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