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Old 03-25-2011, 10:50 AM   #46
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I would say any of the suggested media presented for the time frame in a sealed conditioned container for a few decades would suffice.
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I would say any of the proposed media presented for the time frame in a sealed specified container for a few decades would suffice.
This was not a mistake on Moromendas01's part. If it was, he's had over two months to fix it. He very clearly did it on purpose, to: a) post his spam sig, and b) cover this tracks. To cover his tracks, he plagiarized a previous post in the thread. For the entire body of his own post.

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Old 03-25-2011, 11:04 AM   #47
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I would say any of the suggested media presented for the time frame in a sealed conditioned container for a few decades would suffice.
That would be the hardest part is the container. A coffee can would not suffice. If you were here at the beach nothing short of thick stainless steel would work with a triple seal.
 
Old 03-25-2011, 11:14 AM   #48
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Hi,

Moromendas01's has not participated since 3-15-11.

We are handling the situation(s). Thanks for the input.
 
Old 03-25-2011, 11:30 AM   #49
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That would be the hardest part is the container. A coffee can would not suffice. If you were here at the beach nothing short of thick stainless steel would work with a triple seal.
Agree that the container(s) type along with the interior conditioning would be a priority.

A matryoshka principle would work;
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A matryoshka doll, or babushka doll is a Russian nesting doll which is a set of dolls of decreasing sizes placed one inside the other.
That way each container would have a seal for condition of the contained information. The level of containers would depend on the type or importance of the time capsule.
 
Old 03-25-2011, 11:43 AM   #50
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After skimming the thread, it seems we are agreed that normal dvd/cd are the worst material - they degrade without even being used - as was confirmed by a french study - 10 years max, but normally, as most of us have experienced, considerbaly less.

Engraved material seems to be best - hey, you can still play the old phonographs and 78's. There is a huge variety of material available for engraving - clay has been mentioned and the most expensive, gold, is one of the metals most resistant to oxidation etc. - even though it is a somewhat soft metal.

The danger of putting all ones eggs in one basket has been pointed out - so copy, copy and distribute.

Engraved material means also, that unlike chemical (cd/dvd) and magnetic material, one could reproduce and transfer the information to low tech material. The chinese were the masters of this, as was Gutenberg - engraved stuff can be "printed", i.e transferred to short or longer term optical material for general use.

But CD's and DVD's were an irresponsible swindle and I really hope that nobody put their family photos on dvd's expecting them to last until their grand-cchildren grew up.

I have got rid of all my dvd's and am investing heavily in external disks. Magnetic material isn't perfect, I know I must copy them periodically. But I hope that someone will come up with a permanent form of storage in a Henry Ford format - i.e. affordable.
 
Old 03-28-2011, 07:44 AM   #51
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Interestingly, Certain old books(not mentioning what purpose these books were for in view of moderator's comments) came down to us nearly complete on vellum, which is a leather parchment. The ones I have in mind (Mentioning no names)have indeed stood the test of 1600+ years. Sadly, I don't think electronic media could manage that.
Vellum is pretty good. Its better than linen paper, which is much better than the pulp paper everyone uses now, and better than papyrus as well BTW, the only reason it lasts so long is local conditions. Still, its nowhere near as long lasting as clay tablets, and thats outclassed by stone. If you really want something to last for a long time, a very hard volcanic stone would be the way to go. Not that the other stone types are that bad either, plenty of 4000+ year old sedimentary stone structures (and engravings) are still around.

Electronics as we have them now wont even get close to stone.
 
  


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