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Linux runs on any architecture you are able to purchase. It runs on a lot of stuff you probably couldn't find to buy, too. This means: AMD Operteron is an x86* processor, and so Linux runs on it.
The motherboard is a valid question. It may have components (RAID controller for example) that won't work like they claim to in the user's manual. In fact, in short, it won't work. Only "good" expensive RAID cards work. Google for "Linux" and the chipset id's of the stuff on the Tyan mobo. That's what it'll come down to. Chances are very remote that anything else would cause a problem. Again, google the chipset models.
What jhwilliams have said is mostly true. The extras that the motherboard contains such as NIC, sound, storage, video, communication ports depends on if Linux supports them. The chipset that the motherboard uses is irrelevant. It is the extras you have to check for support.
What jhwilliams have said is mostly true. The extras that the motherboard contains such as NIC, sound, storage, video, communication ports depends on if Linux supports them. The chipset that the motherboard uses is irrelevant. It is the extras you have to check for support.
Meh, servers don't use/care about that other junk, and NIC/video almost always works fine with generic drivers.
If the chipset is not supported by a GNU/Linux distribution then how does it matter whether a DeskTop or a Server? Don't kid yourself about not needing subsystem support for the MB. Temperature sensors, timers, storage media interfaces(IDE/PATA/SATA) or even simple USB device(s) must have support even for a server to name a few. If the OP has a MB with the on-board devices that you say are moot. I say be careful.
Server is a rather broad arena, so you need to define where, what and how the server is to be used. Sure, RAID is great when necessary but not all server needs require it.
Simple DATA collection servers for controllers don't require a RAID setup. No need, just collect and serve controller needs then handle the needs of the Data Sampler(s) for computation. Heck I wouldn't setup RAID for the OP unless the needs require the data integrity. 'ext2/3' would be more than adequate for a simple server on IDE/SATA no RAID. No sense in killing a fly with a bulldozer.
If the needs dictate the design criteria then of course setup accordingly.
If the chipset is not supported by a GNU/Linux distribution then how does it matter whether a DeskTop or a Server? Don't kid yourself about not needing subsystem support for the MB. Temperature sensors, timers, storage media interfaces(IDE/PATA/SATA) or even simple USB device(s) must have support even for a server to name a few. If the OP has a MB with the on-board devices that you say are moot. I say be careful.
Server is a rather broad arena, so you need to define where, what and how the server is to be used. Sure, RAID is great when necessary but not all server needs require it.
Simple DATA collection servers for controllers don't require a RAID setup. No need, just collect and serve controller needs then handle the needs of the Data Sampler(s) for computation. Heck I wouldn't setup RAID for the OP unless the needs require the data integrity. 'ext2/3' would be more than adequate for a simple server on IDE/SATA no RAID. No sense in killing a fly with a bulldozer.
If the needs dictate the design criteria then of course setup accordingly.
Technically Linux is the kernel. The desire distribution does not matter about hardware support. It is the kernel that relates to what hardware is supported.
RAID does not protect data integrity. Only back ups protects data integrity. RAID only provides you a chance to do back ups by giving you more time to do back ups before a hard drive failure. Also some RAID levels aids in higher throughput than a single hard drive. A file system is a way of organizing data on a hard drive. All file systems affect data integrity, so one file system is not better than the other when thinking of data integrity. Though I would not use ReiserFS for any setup because a long list of problems.
I am not sure what you are explaining about "data collection servers for controllers." You need to describe this and check for grammar.
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Originally Posted by jhwilliams
Meh, servers don't use/care about that other junk, and NIC/video almost always works fine with generic drivers.
That is wrong. NIC does not work with generic modules. If you think I am wrong, name one generic module that works with all NIC and this includes WiFi.
Again any motherboard that anybody chooses and wants to use Linux, they have to look at the extras that the desire board contains. The extras includes NIC, sound, video, PS/2, USB, IEEE-1394, storage controller. This holds true for any computing environment.
Technically Linux is the kernel. The desire distribution does not matter about hardware support. It is the kernel that relates to what hardware is supported.
RAID does not protect data integrity. Only back ups protects data integrity. RAID only provides you a chance to do back ups by giving you more time to do back ups before a hard drive failure. Also some RAID levels aids in higher throughput than a single hard drive. A file system is a way of organizing data on a hard drive. All file systems affect data integrity, so one file system is not better than the other when thinking of data integrity. Though I would not use ReiserFS for any setup because a long list of problems.
I am not sure what you are explaining about "data collection servers for controllers." You need to describe this and check for grammar.
That is wrong. NIC does not work with generic modules. If you think I am wrong, name one generic module that works with all NIC and this includes WiFi.
Again any motherboard that anybody chooses and wants to use Linux, they have to look at the extras that the desire board contains. The extras includes NIC, sound, video, PS/2, USB, IEEE-1394, storage controller. This holds true for any computing environment.
I told you before I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. As for my grammar with 'data collection servers for controllers', it's correct. Since your the know it all then you should know what a controller server is. Semantics with you again. The GNU/Linux Distro has a Linux kernel. If you want minute definitions then perhaps you should define the rules you only understand.
Data integrity does pertain to a system and not just for backup of the system. If your data is mangled when written, then all you will have is garbage. Your information won't be what you expect the next time it is used.
Invalid data can be created by multiple system components or even simple storage utilities. I can continue with examples but you still will argue it's wrong. Go figure!
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excerpt from 'Data integrity';
The quality of correctness, completeness, wholeness, soundness and compliance with the intention of the creators of the data. It is achieved by preventing accidental or deliberate but unauthorized insertion, modification or destruction of data in a database. Data integrity is one of the six fundamental components of information security
BTW, I never said anything about the NIC use of a generic driver. Thanks for the MB lesson. Most knowledgeable people do size the system to meet the needs of the design criteria. Hopefully the MB selection fits, if not then other core changes may need changed or select a different MB. Your so called extras can be disabled on most MB therefore you could/can place subsystems into the system to fit the design. Hopefully drivers are there to implement the new subsystem. Yes, selection should dictate whatever is selected to meet the criteria.
I told you before I'm not getting into a pissing contest with you. As for my grammar with 'data collection servers for controllers', it's correct. Since your the know it all then you should know what a controller server is. Semantics with you again. The GNU/Linux Distro has a Linux kernel. If you want minute definitions then perhaps you should define the rules you only understand.
"data collection servers for controllers" is not an industry term. Since you did not define your self, this means you do not know and you pull something out of thin air with out any facts. It is not Semantics, it is creditability.
"data collection servers for controllers" is not an industry term. Since you did not define your self, this means you do not know and you pull something out of thin air with out any facts. It is not Semantics, it is creditability.
Maybe in your little part of the Industry but these are used in Manufacturing and Laboratory environments for experiment/manufacture operations to control and collect data for daily operations. The controllers can be simple standalone systems with machine control via isolators, Data Acquisition or DAC. These same servers may collect from or serve test instruments i.e. HP,Tek, Nicolet or even spectrum analyzers. This depends on the apparatus or experiment under test or control. In early days I had to use 3b's as the server but migrated to much cheaper PCs' with appropriate interfaces. Some of the controllers would be small footprint embedded systems that had been adapted to function with each experiment.
You are such a narrow minded person to think no other person can know something outside of your understanding. Creditability on your weighted terms. I'm through with your inane statements and will no longer respond to your post in the fashion you presently desire. Banter on by looking into the mirror!
Maybe in your little part of the Industry but these are used in Manufacturing and Laboratory environments for experiment/manufacture operations to control and collect data for daily operations. The controllers can be simple standalone systems with machine control via isolators, Data Acquisition or DAC. These same servers may collect from or serve test instruments i.e. HP,Tek, Nicolet or even spectrum analyzers. This depends on the apparatus or experiment under test or control. In early days I had to use 3b's as the server but migrated to much cheaper PCs' with appropriate interfaces. Some of the controllers would be small footprint embedded systems that had been adapted to function with each experiment.
You are such a narrow minded person to think no other person can know something outside of your understanding. Creditability on your weighted terms. I'm through with your inane statements and will no longer respond to your post in the fashion you presently desire. Banter on by looking into the mirror!
I am not narrow minded because I ventured into many different areas of computers and electronics. Also I went into cultured topics. Then you came here and used age to discriminate me which is not fair. I am trying to state on the same level while you use your age ladder to state that you are better. At this time I disrespect you based on your age discrimination act.
I am not narrow minded because I ventured into many different areas of computers and electronics. Also I went into cultured topics. Then you came here and used age to discriminate me which is not fair. I am trying to state on the same level while you use your age ladder to state that you are better. At this time I disrespect you based on your age discrimination act.
I said that I was not going to banter with you. How did I age discriminate? What cultured topics? I've only been on LQ since '2005' and I really don't remember a culture or age problem with you. If there's been a problem of that sort then I'm sure that the mods would put a stop to that.
What has my age ladder got to do with this? I don't claim to be better than anyone. I put my pants on every mourning the same as anyone else.
Where are you getting information for this statement;
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'I am trying to state on the same level while you use your age ladder to state that you are better. At this time I disrespect you based on your age discrimination act.'
I don't think this is work or Education Institution related so how am I in violation?
Enough! I'm going against what I stated before. This is not helping the OP and has drifted so far the mods will state a problem. If you want to PM me then feel free to.
Where are you getting information for this statement;
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'I am trying to state on the same level while you use your age ladder to state that you are better. At this time I disrespect you based on your age discrimination act.'
I don't think this is work or Education Institution related so how am I in violation?
I did not flame. onebuck started the whole mess because onebuck does not want to be corrected. onebuck should have bit a lip and move on.
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Originally Posted by jhwilliams
I am not understanding this. Can you explain further thx++?
Media gets things mixed up stating Linux as the operating system. This is OK to do since it costs too much to explain. The statement that I describe that Linux is the kernel is correct. Linux is the kernel because with out it the whole OS that the media states Linux becomes nothing. To describe a particular kernel that Linux uses is the Linux kernel. Linus Torvalds wrote a kernel which he called it Linux. The media forgot the other end that makes Linux is GNU or community. The community includes programs that makes Linux function. The community was created by Richard Stallman. With out GNU the kernel will do nothing. It is the combination of Linux, the kernel, and GNU, the community, that makes what the media states as Linux. A technical name is GNU/Linux. You can use either GNU/Linux or Linux when telling people about it.
I did not flame. onebuck started the whole mess because onebuck does not want to be corrected. onebuck should have bit a lip and move on.
Media gets things mixed up stating Linux as the operating system. This is OK to do since it costs too much to explain. The statement that I describe that Linux is the kernel is correct. Linux is the kernel because with out it the whole OS that the media states Linux becomes nothing. To describe a particular kernel that Linux uses is the Linux kernel. Linus Torvalds wrote a kernel which he called it Linux. The media forgot the other end that makes Linux is GNU or community. The community includes programs that makes Linux function. The community was created by Richard Stallman. With out GNU the kernel will do nothing. It is the combination of Linux, the kernel, and GNU, the community, that makes what the media states as Linux. A technical name is GNU/Linux. You can use either GNU/Linux or Linux when telling people about it.
Look your stating I'm the one that doesn't like correction. You had better look in the mirror. Maybe you should take your own advice then bite your lip and move on.
GNU/Linux happens to be a operating system that utilizes the Linux kernel as it's core. There's no problem with the media and/or individuals that identify by association using the generic term to describe the GNU/Linux OS. Maybe your want for detail has actually blinded you from true understanding or is it just lack of common sense.
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